You've lost me completely, sorry. I'm backing out now. The only reason we were talking was that you seemed to be asserting that it wasn't possible to do a non-UPF sweetened yogurt product, which, obviously no.
Yes that was my argument and it stands. The Kalona yogurt you showed is not UPF but I think the honey might be only in the bottom. The lafermiere yogurts are UPF.
I do not understand what difference you think that makes but I'm also not that invested in this debate. I don't even like yogurt.
You started going on about pasteurization and confused everyone..