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any tips on how to get over this. i live with my mom and she has this smell now.

2-3 times per week shower and lather fully with persimmon extract soap. Plus wash clothes with a “sport”/“activewear” laundry detergent on extra heavy cycle, like Persil Activewear. And yes the soaps and detergents that are effective on nonenal are more expensive.

I interpret that question as "what can I do to stop smelling it, because she is old, stubborn, and is never going to change anything she does and will smell like this 'til the day she dies?"

I have a mother that is a Type-2 diabetic because for decades she refused to eat right or exercise like the doctors told her. She has tracked down every medication known to man to treat the symptoms just so that she doesn't have to give up junk food. And she will never change.

Has she tried GLPs?

They pretty directly attack the desire to have junk food. Absolutely incredible drugs.

She is on GLPs, still only eats junk food. She is cognitively more alert, but it did nothing for her eating habits or weight.

The problem is, if when you go shopping you only pick up junk food, when you get home you are only going to find junk food. To eat healthy would require a complete overhaul on her life, and she has never been willing to do it.

You cannot change others, you can only change yourself

article seems to suggest parsimmon doesnt seem to help. but no harm in trying i guess.

Washing and rinsing in hot rather than cold water helps.

2-3 times per week shower? How about taking a shower everyday?

With that soap, context...

Yes with that soap. The soap is expensive but also it does dry skin and hair come, I find washing scalp helps for scalp health, and face, but requires moisturizer and conditioner use.

Article claims it doesn’t help but I think that is wrong and many others agree.

Is the house clean? Apparently 2-nonenal can build up on surfaces. FWIW my parents house (mom 86, dad 90) doesn't smell like old person, but they keep it so clean (via a dedicated house cleaner that comes in every two weeks) that an engineer could probably work on spacecraft in the living room.

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