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My thought exactly.

Which is why I have NoScript in my Firefox and have gotten used to manually enabling javascript for select pages. Small price to pay.

Unfortunately the web is full of trivial websites that have no business running javascript. Recently wanted to read the famed post on Gates Notes. But for some reason Bill requires javascript to render text and images. Which reminded me Bill is not a person with good judgement on matters of IT and policy. Time saved.

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Wow... I understand your point but if you feel that strong about gates using js on his personal website, it is a bit harsh isn't it? Could have multiple reasons why it is needed. Especially for someone with such a huge follower base. Lazy loading, tracking, client based adjustments, using a framework, fun [:)]... I could go on with a 100 more points why js might be needed.

I know that this is sarcasm, but there are people who really think this.

They get emotional (usually angry) when you tell them you disable javascript- as if every site that serves any kind of content has an automatic entitlement to run arbitrary code on your computer.

HTML has lazy loading.

There not a lot of reason to not have at least a fallback to serve your text-only content without JS.

That is true, but it is very basic and depending on the browser how it is implemented. On traffic heavy sites, which I assume gates blog is, js gives you full control over what get loaded when and at the same time enables tracking how far the user read the article and which parts he most likely skipped. I am not saying that this is good, however if you have these requirements js is a valid choice.

Basically no one has a requirement to track what someone else is looking at. In fact, if not given explicit consent by the person being tracked (like they've specifically sought you tracking it for them, e.g. marking their place), we should frankly criminalize it. Mass surveillance should result in jail time.

I don't think there's any valid reason to _require_ JS on a static web site unless interactivity is the whole point.

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