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It isn't even a settled question that there is a genocide.

Anyway, my issue with them is that they love to derail every debate on the internet by injecting their personal gripes regarding the conflict.

Sure, there are a bunch of morons on the Zionist side as well, but in general, barely anyone spams about the topic on Mamdani related news for example.

In a thread about the conflict, yeah, debating the conflict is on topic. But in a thread that has zero business dealing with the conflict at all and just casually mentions a company that happens to be active in Israel? Now that is (for me) pure derailing.

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> It isn't even a settled question that there is a genocide.

Israel themselves seem pretty settled on it:

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20260902-israel-orga...

That's election blathering, it's less than two months and as the Israeli (far-)right is looking for a serious defeat [1], they are trying to mobilize their respective bases.

Especially the ultraorthodox crowd is going to get hit hard, the rest of Israel is extremely pissed off at them due to their insistence on not having to serve in the military.

And let me be clear: all of those currently in power in Israel deserve a court trial and a lengthy prison term for incitement of racial hatred, and everyone in charge of the military and police a war crimes investigation.

[1] https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/09/02/i...

> That's election blathering

Your degree if denialism is really impressive. You dismiss, the mass killings, the push to erase a nation, and you even dismiss representatives outright admitting and acknowledging doing it.

Where exactly do you place the bar that would lead you to say "Yes, Israel is committing genocide".

> Where exactly do you place the bar…

At the very least you’d expect the population being genocided to decline.

Palestinian population growth has been exponential throughout Israel’s history (if you’re one of those who claim the “genocide” started a long time ago), and even the population of Gaza has not declined after 3 years of war (reported births are still more than reported deaths).

> At the very least you’d expect the population being genocided to decline.

Imagine being a European in 1940 and claiming there’s no genocide against the Jews because "at the very least you’d expect the population being genocided to decline" (at that point "only" around 100,000 had been killed).

We’re not in 2023. By 1942, when the Red Cross refused to say there’s a genocide, 4.5 million Jews had been killed - 3 million in 1942 alone.

The total killed in Gaza in 2026 is about 920 (mostly targeted attacks of individuals who participated in the Oct 7 massacre).

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