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The example could be hyperbole, but Home Depot and Lowes both offer a wide selection of "smart toilets" and if we think "oh this is just a weird niche thing that will never catch on" let's remember how difficult it is to not purchase a Smart TV when television shopping these days.

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Most appliances have "smart" features now, it's getting hard to avoid. But I've never enabled them. My dishwasher and my clothes washer have both bluetooth and wifi features but I never set them up. I just use the controls on the device. I have no interest in getting information about my appliances when I am not physcially in front of them.

Yes, but the controls on the device cost the manufacturer a couple of cents that they will be happy to not pay as soon as they can get away with it. First it'll be (in some cases already is) the advanced or rarely used functionality. Eventually you'll be expected to connect the damned thing before it can be used at all.

I cannot envision what a traditional, but smart toilet may do.

By traditional, not Japanese or anything of the sort. I'm sure it's also not taking medical samples.

So what on earth could it do?! Report the flushes!?! Why? Are you going to magically decide not to crap as much?

Just baffling.

The whole point of the label "smart" is to fill in vague positive thoughts for the customary "..." that comes right before "profit" in the standard /. business plan. And the real problem is that it works.

There are smart toilet devices that have cameras, so, it's about as bad as one could imagine.

Probably connected to your wi-fi and with a default password, as is customary for IoT.

It is kinda funny that “smart” is the branding we’ve converged on for these devices that have unnecessary computer features. Most engineers would, I guess, call it pretty stupid to add a computer to the BoM of your toilet.

Gastroenterologists generally categorize feces into ~7 categories. They can be indicators of a variety of dietary deficencies, including dehydration or insufficient fiber intake. Others can be indicators of a variety of medical issues, up to an including colon cancer. Ubiquitous smart toilets scanning and categorizing our feces would move the needle of overall public health and well-being.

Yes indeed they would, all the issues with sensor longevity aside.

But, that's not now. So why the app now?

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call enshittification!

Auto-flush, seat warmer, scheduled seat warmer, cleaning cycle, scent dispenser, "you haven't been going as often" sensing, auto high/low flush depending on time on toilet...

Just off the top of my head, and I'm no toilet engineer. I'm sure there are lots of possibilities with just a sensor or two.

I could see someone trying to sell a toilet that reduces the water amount depending on your business as an eco feature.

Or one that automatically ads cleaning products and notifies you on your phone when you need to refill them.

> I cannot envision what a traditional, but smart toilet may do

"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't flush that".

I recently visited both and could not find a single smart toilet... strange.

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