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> I'm very curious about the privacy implications of this. I know that anything I do and store on my company's laptop can be tracked, but I hadn't considered that if I forgot to sign out of my personal Gmail on it that they could legally search that information.

If it's work-related, work computer only. If it's anything personal, personal computer only. This is especially true for situations where companies are using screen capturing tools that capture the screen every 'x' seconds[0].

The seeming convenience of using your work computer for everything isn't worth the risk but some people don't consider the legal implications, as you've noted in your anecdote.

Once your personal message to Bob or Jane enters an official record because it's included in the eDiscovery (even if accidental) result(s), it's over.

Better to not have a surface risk like that, than assume the process will keep your personal data safe.

0 - https://desktime.com/features/time-tracking-with-screenshots

I was under the impression that Apple requires its employees to login with personal Apple ID accounts for cloud storage.

> “You go through these steps of getting all your software set up, and all your devices provisioned to access internal Apple networks, and things like that. And it explicitly says you cannot use your corporate Apple account to set this up.”

https://cybersecurityventures.com/does-apple-spy-on-its-empl...

How's that supposed to work? Apple requires employees to own Apple products or have a personal account in the first place? That doesn't sound believable.

Requiring them to make a (free) Apple account doesn’t sound unreasonable.

“Go to https://account.apple.com/ and make one that doesn’t use your Apple corporate email” seems like a fair and legal work instruction to me.

That seems crazy to me. I've always had my employers either provide or offer to provide me with anything I'll use for work. Asking someone to use a non-corporate-managed account for work seems especially insane to me. I've never heard of that.

I don’t see as much difference as you seem to see here.

Day 1 at FooCorp: “As part of onboarding, please set up these two accounts, both of which FooCorp operates and bears all the costs for.”

Day 1 at Apple: “As part of onboarding, please set up these two accounts, both of which Apple operates and bears all the costs for.”

I've never heard of being asked by an employer to make an account associated to a non-work account (like a personal email). They should provision SSO, or at least use a company domain like apple.com or internal.apple.com for test accounts.

Day 1 at FooCorp: "Your email address is you@foocorp.com. Conducting business activities with personal accounts is against policy and may result in disciplinary action including termination. It may also be a regulatory violation depending on industry."

I assume they want the developers to dogfood the software they work on. Not crazy if so.

This may have been an optional iCloud 2TB promotion for employees, but still relevant to the lawsuit.

I'm also under the impression that Apple requires its employees to dogfood their products and services. Hoping someone with personal experience and a lapsed NDA can chime in.

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