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And now that I have walked over the whole website: Why not a single screenshot anywhere?

My $0.02: it doesn't actually exist.

GitHub repo indicates they're working on basic, basic, bringup. Like, Objective-C works at all and CLI utilities work.

This is gutting, when combined with a prior post showing this dates back 3 years.

The screenshots were deleted a month ago.

https://github.com/ravynsoft/website/commit/1a576c1d8f2fa964...

this is when still using FreeBSD/NextBSD kernel, that DE using ObjC and basic framebuffer no x11 / wayland. The current one using Darwin kernel but still CLI only and no graphics subsystem supported yet.

Also if you wanna GUI puredarwin exist , based on X11 no macOS GUI subsystem:

- https://sourceforge.net/projects/puredarwin/files/2012/ older

- https://github.com/PureDarwin/PureDarwin/releases/tag/17.4 older just before new Nix

- https://www.puredarwin.org/#get-it newest using X11 and Nix packager

Maybe it will take off with AI

I wager that maybe, probably, possibly, perhaps the GUI of this thing looks like ass and feels even worse. There used to be screenshots, you can google them. But maybe don’t.

And, perhaps (?), that ties in with the GUI being the most proprietary thing here, thus, them building that last/less or wanting to de-emphasize it?

Aristo already exists and looks great: <https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&query=aristo%20cxr&sor...>

The real link: https://www.cappuccino.dev/aristo/

Looks great, so sad that it's yet another web framework. Kinda smacks of GNOME, though.

Oh wow I remember trying cuppaccino about .... 15 years ago maybe? Fun times, though I never built anything serious.

Man I used to develop SAAS software using Cappuccino. Since I knew Objc (and JS/CSS) really well it was such a beautiful system for development. I'm sad it never went anywhere

May I ask what made it special? It does look awful "elegant" and well put together ...

when Cappuccino was written, Apple was still using the Objective-C + AppKit stack. It had been honing this stack for years, every WWDC brought useful and deliberate improvements. Back then macOS development was much more niche (and tech in general). They could take their time. MacOS releases happened every couple of years, not every year. Not the kind of outcome we have nowadays where changes are rushed because of demand.

Cappuccino improved upon javascript by using a different language (objective-j) that added many features js didn't have, and it used the same (mostly) well-honed api as AppKit. In comparison to other js UI frameworks of its time, it was lightyears ahead.

The entire pace of releases itself made everything more "breathable" and (ostensibly) higher quality.-

PS: Compare to today, with code slop (and good agent-mediated code: It also increases overall speed).-

Looks like: macOS window chrome with Windows 95 GUI controls.

The project says it’s in pre alpha so that’s to be expected

Literally the first two features listed on the website are "clean design" and "global menus". If they're too early to even have mockups of what that's going to look like, I have to question why they have what clearly seems to be a marketing page up publicly at all then.

Because there is nothing to screenshot.

Others have speculated that the UI looks like ass. Some have said "Mac OS window chrome with Win 95 GUI controls.

Yeah, no.

See for yourself. This is the most recent release on their github page. I considered posting it to my Youtube account to gain some of that much-needed eyeballs and attention, but it's 11pm and I'm not doing that shit, I'm not playing that game.

Here is what appears to be the most recent release. I think you'll agree that as a Mac OSX replacement, it's quite jaw-dropping.

https://ishootdv.cam/video/ravynos.mp4

At least it displays a logo...

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