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If SAP appears in a list of successes then clearly EU is fucked.

I'm talking about massive global financial successes.

Also, if SAP is "so bad", where are the amazing American competitors? From what I heard, the Oracle equivalent is even worse than SAP.

Build your own startup to compete with them! I'm guessing it's not as easy a product to make as people may assume.

SAP isn’t a company to be crazy proud of, but it doesn’t make it not a success nor does it mean “EU is fucked”.

May I remind you that in the US, Facebook is in that same list of top successes? Have you ever heard the phrase “the top minds of this generation of Americans are all working on ads”?

Also, if huggingface is “technically” American, then fuck me, Stripe is technically European. Hell, their CEO is insanely pro europe, pro EU, and a big enabler of projects like EU Inc and lately, the Rhine Group.

I mean EU can cope all it wants, the most successful startup in Germany being a weapons company is all that you really need to know. It is sad how far these countries have fallen and I am German myself.

Germany isn’t exactly great at startups, it’s one of the worst countries in europe to create and scale one. Helsing is doing great in spite of that ecosystem, and thanks to good timing and current geopolitics.

That itself does not reflect on all of EU. Since the UK left, Germany has probably been the worst “special child” of the lot to be honest; their notaries and trade unions are the primary challengers to EU Inc for the most ridiculous reasons for example.

But the talent is here.

That's an embarrassing example that shouldn't have been at the top, but most of the rest are good.

Yet on most metrics IBM is a success.

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