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With llamacpp --reasoning-budget truncates thinking and makes it a usefulagain.

Its a per client request setting also.

Using qwen 3.8 27b, in open code, its unnoticeable.

So more a issue for server/harness design than model.

Also, there might be a real bug in the models parameters, like this for 3.8-27b: https://huggingface.co/grimoni/Qwen3.8-27B-SSMFIX-UD-Q4_K_XL...

We don't actually know how much thinking GPT and Opus do, the labs won't show us anymore. And they certainly take their time before starting to answer.

It’s definitely a heavy thinker, like most Qwens.

I see strings like “write, now.” In the thinning traces then it goes on to think for a lot longer, so it’s kind of weird.

I haven’t figured out hope to use this effectively yet on my strix halo.