Why are you listing other people that you imagine you wouldn’t mind if they were habitual liars
If I wanted to have a completely different conversation, unrelated to his reputation for making stuff up, with a fan about his creations I’d say something like “He created reusable rockets? Wow that Elon guy must have so many patents relating to aerospace and manufacturing” but that would be a totally different thread
People have goals they work towards...
Sometimes they have success/failure.
That's different from "making stuff up"