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"Labs" here specifically means "AI/LLM model lab", which that part of Nvidia is unquestionably one of the most open.

Nvidia is also one of the most closed hardware developers around. Two things can be true.

Then this whole comment thread was a diversion though, as it was specifically about the hardware parts and not model training.

Well, the entire context is Nvidia acquiring HF, which is very much in the "lab" side of things, so it's in my opinion slightly blurrier than that.

But it is a good example of people talking past one another and not communicating well, I would think.