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Posting this because I want people to vote -- and ideally vote for a total ban.

I'm curious about enforcement. Are they going to ban packages with a whiff of llm? If so, how will they reliably audit?

No, otherwise one would have to remove the Linux kernel, the Hurd kernel, LLVM, Python, Chromium, Firefox, Rust and everything using these. And probably some more.

It does not appear that normal people can. There is no vote page, no information on how to, and we can only view results.

Given almost all people here cannot vote, does this mean you posted non-AI-generated slop?

Wouldn't it be better to reduce slop, no matter how it was produced, instead of only AI-generated contributions, including non-slop contributions?

Are you going to fork kernel? If not then you are just a bunch of stupid hypocrites.

What are your arguments for a ban? Why do you expect someone to listen if you didn't provide a justification?

> Posting this because I want people to vote

Irrelevant to post it here then with your reasons because it only concerns Debian developers

I wrote it. I am fully aware of that, and I said so in the piece.

I want to spread awareness that it's happening -- it only has a couple of days to run.

So far there are only ~350 votes:

https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_llm/

Circa 270 people have voted:

https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_llm/tally.txt

(My reckoning; could well be wrong!)

With a project the size of Debian, I feel sure that is a tiny fraction of eligible developers.

> and ideally vote for a total ban.

If a total ban were to happen, wouldn't that make Debian a target for hackers who can use LLMs to find vulnerabilities?

How would Debian keep up with the influx of AI assisted 0 days?

Exactly, agreed 100% https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the...

H. G. Wells wrote about how this proverb has limitations [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Country_of_the_Blind

No analogy, comparison (add your own language construct) is ever 100% true. Perhaps you should consider that my intent behind this was to say, that Debian will be blind, without ANY eyes.

Not using AI to write production code doesn't mean you can't use AI proactively to find vulnerabilities.

Poster wants a "total ban", you can only deduce that means vulnerability management also.

Or you could read the proposal and deduce nothing.

It explicitly excludes security fixes.

Oh the hypocrisy...

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