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> they just want volunteers for the hard-to-staff weekday shower-cleaning shift

This may sound like a loaded question, but I assure you, that's not my intention. If you want to provide for those "invisible" homeless, who aren't drug addicts or mentally ill, shouldn't the primary volunteer pool consist of exactly those invisible homeless people? Or in other words, once you have organizers, why do you need external volunteers for cleaning the showers?

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Point in case - my 75-yr-old retired parents staff one of those church showers in one of the most affluent towns south of SF. They have time, because they're retired. The people using those showers can't volunteer, they have jobs they have to get to.

That's the point here, the invisible homeless are people who are _fully employed_ but they're still too poor to have homes to live in.

HN comments always seem to be driving in the right direction and then yank the steering wheel at the last moment.

Gotta be some kind of weather vane for you guys.

Please elaborate. Where does my comment leave the "right direction"?

how can a volunteer group only consist of one group of people?

surely then they aren't volunteering, but rather being volunteered

Being volunteered to help clean the facilities they depend on and otherwise get for free?

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