Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas
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I don't think there are many people who believe "Iran are the good guys."
Lots of people do understand that bombing civilian infrastructure, killing innocent civilians, and taking actions that were inevitably going to lead Iran to respond with the goal of inflicting widespread economic damage has in many ways actually helped and emboldened the Iranian regime.
This wasn't just "unfortunate" and "ill-conceived". It was stupid and arguably criminal.
I'd consider them allies at least given that all of the bad guys hate Iran with a burning passion. Iran is also the only major country on earth that have actually stood up to Israel and helped defend Palestinians.
But since you raise the point: I am against any attacks on civilian infrastructure. They are an affront to humanity. Russia's attack on Ukraine was, I believe, a crime but one crime doesn't justify others. Modern warfare will be the end of us and anyone cheering death and destruction, even when it occurs as a result of acts of defense, has lost the plot.
If one side in a conflict is ignoring the rules, especially if it's the aggressor/occupying force, you cannot expect the other side to continue following them. The moral high ground is a luxury affordable only when you're the overwhelmingly superior force.
Anyway Iran are good enough when we want, we fought alongside them in Afghanistan after 9/11 and against ISIS. Their oil was good enough to (let BP) take 80% of it for 30 years.
But you're not. No amount of mental gymnastics can help at this point to justify all the evil things USA does around the globe because of greed and lust for dominance.
And now you are blabbering about "good/bad guys"..
You are just totally nuts, and your place is on the same bench where nazi officials sat after 1945.
Could it be because they're really good at it?
but i'll concede some of them were literally nazis
I'm sure they've killed plenty of people in the US and elsewhere as well. Epstein was an Israeli op after all.
I lived in Israel, and know Israel well enough to believe this is true.
I'm so tired of this geopolitical whataboutism.
Once at tech policy happy hour, someone got in my face and demanded I affirm that Israel has a right to exist.
They recoiled as if they'd been physically struck when I shot back "Israel has a right to exist and not do war crimes... just like Saudi Arabia".
(I don't give a fuck if you have dip-lo-mat-ic imm-un-itt-y. I've slapped the soul out of someone in Farragut Square before, and as I sit here looking at the data, I've concluded I'll probably do it again, don't you ever put your fucking hands on me.)
There is no reason to treat the leaders of Israel any different than the leaders of countries like UAE, Qatar, etc.
(And if it was up to me, we'd send all these fascist motherfuckers on a free trip to The Hague.)
Which other countries in the west also do war crimes and where’s the comparable outrage about them?
EDIT: Article for reference, https://archive.ph/xNSr2.
I'm frankly quite tired of hearing about how terrible the Iranians are (and they are), because the people they are fighting are arguably worse. Iran are a threat to the middle east, but they're fighting nations that are actively a threat to the entire planet.
Does Israel heavily control social media throughout the West?
Multiple foreign governments are ruining influence operations. We should be talking about the effects that has on our public sphere, and the existence of Israeli influence operations doesn't mean we handwave away Iranian influence.
Too many examples from US, Israel, Russia