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Nietzsche also described it well when noting there are those who deem themselves nobles and feel they are righteously above the laws and those who derive their identity from suffering under the same laws.

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It's interesting if you think of Solidarity in these terms.

There is a kind of solidarity of persistence under harsh natural conditions. And another kind of solidarity of persistence under laws.

So it might follow that the former group, those who feel above laws, also lack in a feeling of Solidarity. That would suggest a strong adherence to Individualism as a key component to their identity.

Nietzsche died broke and insane. Was that from following his own advice or failing to do so?

Newton put needles in his eye's and probably suffered greatly from self inflicted lead and mercury poisoning; Why do you trust his laws of motion?

Being successful or not in your wealth doesn't make you right or wrong about anything with the exception of maybe running the business that generated your wealth.

Nietzsche presented two prototypical sets of human who interface with laws and ethics. He described why those believes exists and are self-reaffirming even if they are puzzling from the other side.

The Ayn Rand stans say the same.

My uncle told me not to smoke, but he's a smoker so I didn't listen.

Good, lots of other people who aren't smokers can tell you that

So did Tesla and Vincent Van Gogh, but how much did he create?

Faraday was poor, etc.

Lenin deteriorated, and Marx was always poor.

Anyway...

> Nietzsche died broke and insane

If he was alive today he’d probably have a YouTube channel and be making bank shilling dietary supplements.

You jest, but that's the point a lot of people here are missing: Nietzsche would fit right in with the YouTuber bros, right up to the ignominious downfall.

No, not really. Nietzsche was a trained philologist with a brilliant academic career, before he ended it early because of health issues. He was leaps and bounds more educated and knowledgable than 99% of people making philosophy content on YouTube. He was also a pretty meek and gentle person, even if his ideas are anything but.

Most people haven't actually read him though, and their knowledge of his work comes from poorly-researched YouTube videos.

I tried, even in German on the theory that he was badly translated. Nietzsche was an undisciplined writer and a beefing gossip, among other infuriating characteristics.

Nietzsche was also a pure troll

Not a follow of Nietzsche and critical of him but this is just unfair the sort of pandering to the audience that is required for a popular philosophy channel on youtube is something he would never debase himself to do (or probably any serious thinker).

It's deeply embarrassing to be a whore even if it's well payed.

Is there a name for this style of non-argument? I guess it’s an attack on credibility due to the inability to attack the content of the argument?

ad hominem.

Based on the comments its even shallower than ad-hominem. It's loose association to the "bad" they learned from the "good". Therefore everything from bad is bad. It's team sports thinking.

If I had to guess they probably read some wired article saying tech people are followers of Nietzsche based on one guy quoting one thing one time. Although probably used more dramatic terms like Nazis or fascist or something.

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