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Ya know, there's not a damned thing I can do about any of this, other than TRY to get citizenship elsewhere and leave this shithole.

And fascism is taking hold lots of other places as well. Canada's a laugh, with Alberta seperatism. And they also had trump trucker caravans.

EU? They're boiling in their own juices with the fact they now need air conditioning due to climate devastation... And many countries make it illegal without health reasons.

Japan and SK are both doing very poorly. China has some of the harshest immigration.

South America is still being fucked with by the CIA and destabilization idiocy.

I understand the tune-out check-out hippie response. There's fuck-all I can do, other than watch.

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Id like to suggest that you rethink your opinion on the trucker caravan protest.

It is a reasonable position to frame them as opposing authoritarian government policies and for the governments response to be overreach.

The popularity of the trucker protest made and makes sense. Big anti government movements like that attract all sorts of bad actors and the media and government worked to highlight the worst aspects of that protest.

Mentally reducing the trucker protest to "thus Canada is bad" makes you seem like the type of black and white American fool that has created the political environment in the USA.

> It is a reasonable position to frame them as opposing authoritarian government policies and for the governments response to be overreach.

Well that's a big coded pile of bullshit.

What polices are "overreach"? By what standards? What authoritarian rules are being protested?

Oh that's right. It's all anti-vaxxer and 'cure yourself of Covid with bleach and ivermectin' bullshittery.

I have absolutely no fucking sympathy for a bunch of covidiots. Doubly so, since these chuckle fucks were ALSO pro-Trumpers.

> black and white American fool that has created the political environment in the USA.

And it's hilarious that you wouldn't touch the Alberta seperatism/fascist movement happening right now. You all like to pretend your shit doesn't stink... And well, I smelled it during wildfire season. Turn my sky yellow orange.

But all of this is spoken like a Republican riling shit up on Facebook.

Calm down. This aggressive response to having your ideas challenged is exactly the type of thinking you resent in your political opponents.

> Trucker protest is _all_ pro trump anti vaxxer / ivermectin

This is black and white "us vs them" thinking. This is fundamentally false and your inability to parse truth out of your political opponents positions will make your positions meet more resistance, ultimately you personally less influential and less useful to your team. Perhaps even net negative.

> Wouldn't touch the Alberta separatism

I am from Alberta. Alberta separatism is far less relevant or popular than the media makes it out to be. Im not sure how to make sense of the difference between CBC's reporting and my lived experience on the ground in Alberta, but everyone around me here is pro Canada and against separating. Even the rural conservatives. I have literally never met someone who actually wants to separate from Canada.

Take this style of discourse back to reddit please and thank you.

Oh look. Tone police.

> It is a reasonable position to frame them as opposing authoritarian government policies and for the governments response to be overreach.

What a joke. No. These people wanted to illegally take over the government. It was written down in their own damn manifesto. Last I checked, taking over a democratically elected government without an election is exactly fascism.

> The popularity of the trucker protest made and makes sense.

The trucker protest was not popular, it was extremely unpopular. It only made such news because the protesters were harassing and assaulting people and causing severe sleep deprivation. Also, it's an insult to "truckers" to call it a truckers protest. Only a very small minority of truckers actually took part. Most were working.

There is no question it was a bad look on Canada, and our police completely failed to handle it in Ottawa. We can all debate on whether the government acted appropriately, but with the Ottawa police complicit in the occupation I don't know what options there where to end it or at least shift the protest into something that wasn't infringing on the rights of the people there to live without being assaulted and threatened.

>TRY to get citizenship elsewhere and leave this shithole.

Most of the wisest ones who had the means have already left. My heartfelt sympathies with the one who are still stuck there.

>And many countries make it [aircon] illegal without health reasons.

Name one country that has done this.

https://consumerchoicecenter.org/keeping-it-cool-removing-hu...

How about 29 countries?

"AC penetration stands only at 19% (vs. 90% US, 91% Japan). This is not a cultural inevitability but a regulatory outcome"

And specifically Geneva Switzerland, it requires medical need to install air conditioning. https://www.gazetaexpress.com/en/Why-are-air-conditioners-al...

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