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Defcon was always the most government-aligned conference. Historically, BlackHat was Defcon's slightly more counter-culture counterpart/foil. These days, I don't think anti-establishment hackers have any physical conference gathering.

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> These days, I don't think anti-establishment hackers have any physical conference gathering.

HOPE still exists

I think you got them confused, DEF CON is the more counterculture and Blackhat is the corporate conference.

While I agree that was the original intention, modern DEFCON is just as corpo but for those that cannot afford blackhat. European hacker cons like CCC are now what DEFCON once was rumored to be long ago.

> These days, I don't think anti-establishment hackers have any physical conference gathering.

Wouldn't you be essentially doxxing yourself by attending?

Privacy centric cons allow paying cash at the door. That is maybe the one thing Defcon still gets right.

Paying cash is nothing compared to all of the cameras installed in and around the location of the con. Which also means nothing towards the hotels definitely not accepting cash unless you're willing to stay at hotel with the working girls and dealers.

Agreed. It is simply the one privacy thing they do right.

>These days, I don't think anti-establishment hackers have any physical conference gathering.

MoneroKon and Monerotopia.

BSidesLV is still pretty chill, although it's more focused on cybersecurity professionals than on the hacking side of things.

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