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It's less about what they did after arriving and more about border violation itself.

Immigration has an official legal process to follow.

Why is that so bad? If the law needs to change - fine, change it. But allowing people to break the law is to enable collapse of the rule of law.

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Ah, the law. Did the Stasi break the law?

Forgive my comparison, but it illustrates the problem.

The law cannot be allowed to become lawless itself, depriving the people of their rights to fast track the pre-determined punishment.

What country does not have immigration laws? We’re not unique in having them nor in enforcing them. Check out Taiwan, China, Singapore, Japan, Egypt, South Africa, Chile, Peru, Canada, etc.

None of those have poorly trained, masked, armed kidnappers snatching people off the streets and shooting their citizens.

None of those are needed for enforcing immigration law. This is a choice, supported by a lot of people who should have known better.

Well, if previous presidencies hadn’t been derelict in their duties (e-verify, timely removals, ineligibility to benefits etc) we would not have been in this pickle. But, especially the Biden admin they _removed_ existing barriers, worked with NGOs to up the numbers of migrants arriving, many ending up illegal, means that there is a large backlog that normally would not need those measures had previous admins not been derelict. In the last 30 years only Obama and Trump enforced immigration laws.

Try just walking into Mexico and staying there indefinitely. You'll have it far worse ... they don't play around.

Has anyone tried that? What happened? I imagine they were deported back to the USA, and probably had a nicer experience than USA deportees.

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