Hacker News Reader

Comment by throw03172019 | Hacker News Reader

throw03172019

Was anyone impressed by Fable? I was never wowed by anything it generated.

Same here Fable has been thrash on my 5x Max, it's definitely been quantized, but not through API which is 10-20x as expensive.

So yeah, different people get different quality. I wouldn't be surprised if it calculates a wealth level, willingness to upgrade, influence, usage levels, etc. and decides what models to serve.

It's extremely obvious to me they've nerfed all models on my 5 Max from Fable to even 4.6, but i've tried through enterprise with huge differences in quality, and i've seen other people experiencing this both on reddit and twitter.

It's blowing my mind. Fable is the only AI model I use for coding, everything else is garbage for my use case.

I'm curious about your specific use case, if you're comfortable sharing it here.

Advanced mesh manipulation, shader writing and editing, 3D math, spatial awareness and analysis. It's not just better, it's the only model that straight up works (sorry for the claude speak). A league of its own.

Don't take my word for it, use a simple prompt of "create a shader showing [complex scene]" and see what the other models vomit out, including opus 4.6/4.8/5 and 5.6 sol (compare fable low effort with sol xhigh).

Vehicle physics/dynamics in my case and yes, same. I got a lot of mileage out of letting it use Opus/Sonnet sub agents for much of the exploratory and implementation work, which cuts down on token use. I got into way fewer "oh, that's nonsense? what about this then?" loops with Fable and it was the first model that actually tried to reason about the full system rather than fixating on details and chasing bits and pieces out of context. Haven't tried Sol yet but so far haven't had a reason to switch.

No need to switch as they give out free trials and Sol Is available on the 20$ plan. It's very fast for its power. I ask it for insight, read the responses myself, and offer its points back to Claude. More efficient than letting them talk to each other.

Tbh the extreme discrepancies between very confidently made statements about "X is better than Y" a sign a to me this is something where peoples' biases are out of control. Not saying you are wrong. Just that these things are so hard to evaluated apples to apples and that things like under-the-hood routing changes muddy the waters so much that it's really hard to get reasonable assessments.

My tests are very visual based and easy to notice when the seed/temp or the routing or the A/B test comes into play. And it's been months of working with these models so comparison is straightforward and robust. Fable is the first time I can use AI to code with good results while everyone has been doing it for ages before me.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com