Forbes 30 under 30 in 2012
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Shouldn't people blazing trails of real, new technologies get some recognition here? Those who bootstrapped this year's hundredth social-local-mobile app are rarely the ones creating new technologies and platforms that change the way we use technology. And yes, there are exceptions, but lets be honest here. Heaven forbid some academics or open-source maintainers get some attention. They went that route quite a bit before this boom.
Genuine innovation isn't always so.
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Anyone that's watched that show can tell you what a joke/fake she is.
I'm not saying everyone on that list isn't impressive, but I would certainly take it with a grain of salt.
When I think 30 Under 30, I think people I don't know that are pushing the industry forward, not people that are shoved down my throat through old methods.
As he grew up, Bieber taught himself to play the piano, drums, guitar, and trumpet. In early 2007, aged 12, Bieber sang Ne-Yo's "So Sick" for a local singing competition in Stratford and was placed second. Mallette posted a video of the performance on YouTube for their family and friends to see. She continued to upload videos of Bieber singing covers of various R&B songs, and Bieber's popularity on the site grew. Chris Hicks, Bieber's A&R at Island/Def Jam, explained Bieber's huge online following to HitQuarters, stating: "He was doing something different. He was an attractive white kid singing very soulful R&B hits. That set him apart immediately from anyone in his range because no one was covering or singing these kind of records."
FWIW, I don't like Bieber's music. But I respect him as a performer and moreso as a socially responsible figure (e.g. participates a lot in the Make-a-Wish foundation, donates a lot of his money to charities)
And congratulations by the way to all the people on the list, instead of hurting my ego and discouraging me, I see this as a way to motivate me to make it to a 40 under 40 list (I'm sure there is one somewhere)
Historically, at least, it'd be most. In Gamers at Work, Nolan Bushnell (founder of Atari) even noted that he was seen as being a "young" founder in Silicon Valley being in his 30s in the 1970s. What we're seeing nowadays with 20-somethings is relatively new.
If you want to get into metrics, it'd help to define what you would consider successful. I'd think you'd do a disservice by conducting such a study.
If you secretly wish you were on this list but don't have the above then you are doing it wrong.
Yeah, somehow even I, a guy who has never been to the Staets, could figure that out only by reading the "Arts" section. Almost all of the people there were New-York-based or from around the area, it's like 2010s New York it's like Paris from 1920s full of bright artists and what have you, which I get the impression it's not true. Too bad for the arts, a pretty sweet deal for people making money out of it.
People can't be happy with their accomplishments?
Building the business that gets you on the list is an accomplishment. After that, getting picked just means you know the right people. It's a derivative accomplishment that, on its own, has zero meaning or value.
Be proud of the thing you built, not the social noise surrounding "cool kids" lists. Who gives a shit? Do something cool, and take pride in that.
At age 14, Wilson became the youngest ever to build a nuclear fusion reactor.
It's good to see security represented on the list, and Parisa's work at Google makes her a brilliant choice.
Also as I have seen in the past from these lists they use money raised as a metric for achievement/ success.
We wonder why there's so much ageism. It's because age obsessions stem from this "cool list" narcissistic nonsense. But this is a prejudice all of us will face, because we're all (well, almost all, and with luck) going to be old some day.
The sign of maturity is to see something like this, neither be impressed nor upset/resentful, and just move on. Some magazine made a list somewhere. There were names on it. Don't remember most of 'em. Not news, not interesting, #toobusygettingshitdone, et cetera.
I didn't even read the list and have no idea who's on it, so I have no opinion of the selection, but the fact that people care is appalling.
The merits of hating / supporting a magazine is one thing. However achieving something of note before thirty is hardly an easy thing and not really something I'd criticize just to criticize. If you don't take support from your peers, or admire their success I don't really see what you yourself are working towards.
Also, by commentating on the general state of HN instead of reading the article, you are not in fact improving the quality of conversation found here.
-- Observation by a 47yo female
What I thought was interesting was how much overlap there was with the category's. (Art & Style, Education, Energy, Finance, Food & Wine, Games & Apps, Hollywood, Law & Policy, Marketing & Advertising, Media, Music, Science & Healthcare, Social Entrepreneurs, Sports, Tech) It was like they created did some research for interesting people and then created new category's after the fact. But, that may also relate to who was willing to be on there list.
My point is that we should be excited about those impressive things, not some list that was compiled.
Lists like this for magazines and are obviously a well thought out strategy to build circulation. This year the Forbes list has even been expanded into more categories so more people can have a feather in their cap. Press releases will be issued and every small town newspaper in america repeats the info about how some person made the list in Forbes. And here on Hacker News (note pg comment on this thread with congratulations confirming the authority and importance of all of this) as well as blogs and other news site that need some fresh material.
The one question that isn't answered anywhere, that I can find, is who are the "panel of expert judges" that helped the Forbes people with the choices? That's certainly relevant.
If that's what you think, why didn't you?
And sure, I'm happy to see YC alumni in the list. It's nice for them to get some recognition.
He might not be interested in Forbes' list, but care about the reaction from the HN community. I see no contradiction.
Is there a text list of all of the people and what company they are with somewhere? Preferably visible on one page?
Temper your attitude, this is a significant accomplishment for these people. There's no need to be malicious against them for their success.
While there definitely is a "white" advantage in this world, and many people on these lists may have been born into privilege, your attitude towards it is pretty bullshit. My point about not being the child of immigrant parents was to highlight this attitude. Immigrant children tend to look at the world differently. They usually have to work harder to get their opportunities, and they'll do what it takes to get them. They have hustle.
It's true, a lot of your success depends on who you know, not what you know. You can either mope around and accept that you'll never be "successful," or you can get your ass in gear and make your own luck.
The choice is yours.
The income distribution would be a Gaussian distribution like intelligence, body height and all other kinds of human traits, if it were truly determined by accomplishement.
But since the income distribution has a rather exponential shape the underlying events must be independent and poissonian distributed, similar to a series of small lottery games or to put it simply: luck!
The first of those lottery games in your life is the question of: are your parents rich or not.
Your income distribution analysis is flawed in a few ways though. You can't have negative height or negative intelligence, but you can have negative income. Likewise, there is an upper bound on human traits, but no functional upper bound on income. Moreover, money grows logarithmically but human traits inherit very slowly.
Anyway, that's not the point. You sound unhappy. You should fix that. Start by realizing that money won't fix it.
I know plenty of immigrant's children in the US that are not "successful" and they tried hard to find a spot under the Sun and failed, they're not poor but are not much better than their parents, who are not rich either, things happened, sometimes that were under their direct control, some of them now basically blame themselves for that and not being rich, although this is something that affects the vast majority of middle class Americans that I knew.
stop complaining about the hand you were dealt and make your own luck.
What is the accomplishment in your mind? What they did? Or?
Because it seems like you are saying the fact that they were picked for a list by (let me repeat myself here) a panel of unnamed expert judges is an accomplishment?