Comment by heylook | Hacker News Reader

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Your simplification itself is compressing away the meaningful point, and then you're confused about your own over-simplification.

Stripe is not a "credit card processor", and that's not the point of OP's comment. The point is that being the intermediary between merchants and processors is the valuable expertise in terms of an OpenRouter acquisition.

It's been a few years, but I used to work on almost exactly this (not at Stripe, but we processed hundreds of billions annually). If you're a big enough merchant (or Stripe itself), you can choose to send a credit card transaction to any one of potentially many processors, each of which have their own performance characteristics (one may approve at a higher rate, the other may charge better fees, etc). All of this subject to attributes of the transaction itself (ticket size, geography, card type, many others). You know quite a bit about the transaction itself before you send it out, so you can build up routing knowledge to optimize for whatever thing you care about (usually transaction success rates or fees).

See how this starts to look a lot like OpenRouter with money instead of tokens? I'm not sure I 100% believe that's how it'll shake out, but there is a transferable skillset.

I hear your argument, I do.

I think the "money instead of tokens" is the important part. Money and tokens are fundamentally different was part of my argument (that I did not make well). It's not clear that it is a good thing for money movers to get into the token business (this apples to Ramp as well).

Banks are also intermediaries between parties (at scale, really between any parties). One could use similar logic to say that it therefore makes sense for Wells Fargo to start buying homebuilders because the home buyers will eventually be paying Wells anyway.

BankRate similarly processes volume of consumer mortgage quotes in real-time communication with lender APIs. They also do not have a reason to own a token router, even though their business involves similar processes to what you outline for Stripe.

Being an intermediary in a value chain does not mean you're critical path, or that it makes sense for you to be in the critical path.

Funnily enough, you argue that this is a natural fit for Stripe while a peer reply argues that it's a change in the business a la Amazon->AWS.

Anyway, I appreciate your thoughts.

> The point is that being the intermediary [..] is the valuable expertise

Yeah, all those intermediary businesses must be eliminated first and foremost if you want a better internet space. The current state of affairs is the direct product of just too many intermediaries sucking money out of both ends that could be spent on quality of service, which leads to lower prices, which leads to a healthier market overall.

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