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Maybe I am a chud but if I am driving to pick up my food and the cashier is just ringing me up, nobody's getting tipped and I have no problem hitting no tip.

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Been that way all along.

I don't find that to be a valid reason. After all, some low paid (but still decently skilled) workerbee prepared the food and packaged it up. When I tip, I'm tipping for both the food and the service. It's a crap shoot about whether it's the practice for the servers to tip the kitchen very well, but they usually tip them something.

How do you know it's low paid? Why not tip 100%? You seem very certain about parent invalid reason as well as your own assumptions. Please enlighten us

I help a line cook with finding employment, so I learn about the pay and conditions. The wages make it nearly impossible for him to find housing.

Why don't we tip bus drivers then? Why don't we tip dental hygienists? Why don't we tip the pilots on our flights or the janitors at our libraries?

The choice of who we tip is entirely arbitrary. How much we are supposed to tip is also arbitrary. There is no logic behind it. The system is entirely stupid.

It clearly existed so that the proprietor can delegate the duty of finding and punishing bad service employees to the customer... which is, again, a terrible system that makes no sense, and it make even less sense now that it's spreading to all manner of jobs where this tenuous connection doesn't even exist!

It's not arbitrary! It's rooted in slavery and racism!

I'm finding myself more in agreement than disagreement; there's no logic and the system is stupid. Tipping is a convention that's enshrined in minimum wage law (in many jurisdictions) for food service / tipped workers and that established convention guides my own tipping decisions. I'd rather that a minimum wage supported a better minimum standard of living.

Then why don't we tip at the deli counter? Or at the supermarket? Tips have always been about the service.

It's a tip. I don't have to give one. Any reason I think of not to is a valid reason. This tipping maximalism idiocy will not end until people put their foot down: I am not tipping for anything that wasn't usual to tip for 20 years ago.

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