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why on earth would you trust no data is sent to China? just because you clicked a toggle?
Reddit/bluesky users seething at anthropic/openai doesn't matter, because they're not the one making the purchasing decisions for AI. Moreover all the complaints you mentioned applies to chinese AI labs as well, with the extra issue that they're beholden to the CCP. Taking the side of chinese ai labs because they're the competitors of american labs is "enemy of my enemy is my friend" logic, which is just dumb. It's like those people who think the US is bad, so then go and simp for china/russia.
I don't use Reddit or bluesky bud, you're projecting.
> Moreover all the complaints you mentioned applies to chinese AI labs as well, with the extra issue that they're beholden to the CCP.
And the American labs are beholden to Trump, Hegseth and the department of war. Furthermore, our companies are consistently pursuing regulatory capture (see Dario's latest tweet) so they can establish themselves as a monopoly or duopoly.
They've scraped and stolen our data, and now they're trying to pull up the ladder behind them. I'm not naive enough to think that the CCP has my best interests at heart as an American, but I'm also not naive enough to think that Anthropic or OpenAI do either. As long as China keeps releasing open models, then the enemy of my enemy really is my friend.
Are you sure it has nothing to do with open vs. closed weights? I'd say that changes the perceived power dynamic quite significantly (although of course the labs can change this either way in no time if they so choose).
If you value data security and ensuring you're not sending data off to servers, then Anthropic and OpenAI are off the table. The security they offer is just far too weak; you have to rely on blind trust. If you deploy a self-hosted Chinese model, then you know exactly where the data is going.
"but nobody is self-hosting Chinese models!" - yes they are, at scale, in datacenters within the US. Many companies already own and operate datacenters; it's a no-brainer.
You decide the routing if you want.
I trust it because there are at least 7 billion on the line. If it came out that they were violating their contract and sending company secrets to China when they promised they won’t, they would lose literal billions for basically no gain, and possible criminal charges.
Why on earth would you think they are sending data to China after you click that toggle when they have every reason not to?
Given how permissive the architecture of the internet is from TCP/IP on up, I think you could formulate a vigorous argument backing up this assertion.