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Hard disagree. Sure their docs are bad, and it's sometimes buggy. But to me cloudflare is actually innovating and trying to offer "new" infrastructure. Durable objects and workers are super cool. R2 has free egress, isn't it insane that they could pull that off?

If what you want is a VM to run postgres then there are other offerings that would be much better.

Not saying they aren't evil though, they probably are, but the infra stuff is cool.

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I disagree with your disagreement. I wrote the post and I am not blaming the innovation. I am blaming the chaos of innovation. Everything feels DISJOINTED.

The innovation is useful, the delivery of the innovation is the pitfall here.

Innovation is only linear in hindsight . Pure speculation on my part but once CF made some leaps in a particular area this enabled them to gather more data and shift direction to reach their over all goals by stifling the causes and the innovation that lead them there. New management comes in, requirements change and this is evident to us on the outside as disjointed behaviour. Companies need to make money from the internet for it to exist. Companies also need to behave and refrain from tragedy of the commons for the internet to keep existing as we know it.

They have cool tech but they can't do product, like most of big tech.

Have you tried wrangler? holy

Hire enough product owners and that's what happens.

That's why they need to buy startups every once and then, to bring some good bacteria in their messed up corporate gut.

yep, wrangler is a monster, the idea is solid - it's like the gcloud or heroku toolbet - the execution isn't nearly as neat.

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