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I think it's very clear that someone who has checked out all the models but the one that called itself mechahitler and is explicitly being fine tuned to support far-right politics is making the choice for reasons other than performance and cost. It's not like all the other models even had plausible claims to those metrics.

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As I said to a dead reply, for coding all of that is immaterial, as long as it codes well then that's all that matters to most people, except it seems those who have an idelogical issue in which case the other model companies also have issues.

No, coding does not make ethical issues immaterial. Nor does it justify your behavior of harassing someone to do something that they've clearly decided not to do for ethical reasons on the basis of criteria that they have clearly rejected.

"Harassing" lol by telling them to try a model, alright. Anyway I didn't know they didn't want to use it for ideological reasons, they didn't say anything about that. Now that I know there's nothing more to be said.

I don't care how good Grok is, it will be a cold day in hell when I give a guy who goes to AfD rallies, instrumentally supported the current Ebola outbreak, and gives the Hitler salute on stage (don't try to tell me he did not, I saw the video) any money I'm not absolutely forced to.

And yes, OpenAI and Anthropic are highly questionable, too, and so I've ended my OpenAI subscription and I'm moving from Claude to other providers. But even people who do not do that are absolutely justified in drawing a line at supporting Musk, because there's a difference between mere normal shittiess and Musk.

Great, don't use it then.

The funny thing is it doesn’t even code well. It’s still worse than OpenAI, Anthropic, and the leading open source models.

So you get worse outcomes while also financially supporting one of the most prolific pushers of race wars, the destruction of labor rights, environmental protections, and general misinformation.

Truly a win-win?

Contrary to your framing it seems to only reason to use Grok at this point would be ideological.

It's a better deal compared to those is what I said. It codes well enough so that's why people use it. As I said, go to r/cursor and you'll find loads of people using it while OpenAI and Anthropic are more expensive per token and give less usage.

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