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tosh

i think you will like luna if you haven't tried it yet

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Luna is twice the price of Deepseek V4 Flash 0731, and less capable :/

Didn't DeepSeek go up 2x?

Up to 4x but in 2 days.

The price on DeepInfra and most providers on OpenRouter has not changed... if anything, it's gotten cheaper.

All of this DeepSeek price increase stuff is related to their specific API, not the entire market.

They were significantly more expensive for coding compared to DeepSeek's offering because of much higher cost of cache reads and lower cache hit rate. Now, after the price jump, the effective cost of deepseek.com API vs 3-rd party providers is about the same.

DeepSeek's API was never "cheap".

They were stealing your code for that extremely cheap cached token price.

That was never the real price. Every Chinese LLM API provider is the same to the best of my knowledge.

"CHEAP API" (but pssst we train on every single input aka your code and ideas are ours forever)

There is no more, no less, guarantee that U.S providers don't do exactly that. In fact openAi is going to court.

If some models are cheaper it's simply because they cost far less to develop. And/or run.

And you're claiming Anthropic and OpenAI are not doing the same thing?

Looks like it's changed now, OpenRouter shows providers having the updated DS4 pricing.

How is it less capable? I get being cheaper, but I’m pretty sure Luna is the stronger model?

Benchmarks are basically tied https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/comparisons/deepseek-v4...

With max reasoning, Luna is actually less than half the actual cost to run compared to DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 with updated prices (based on Artificial Analysis Cost per Task)

No way is it less capable. When deepseek can't get its shit together, I give Luna a go, then Terra, then Sol.

Most of the time Luna figures it out where Deepseek was failing. I rarely have to go to Sol levels.

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