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Aha! I was posting about a thing I made for just this purpose the other day - it is called Leafle. You talk to it about books you’ve read and enjoyed or not, and it uses that plus the fact that llms have very extensive knowledge of pretty much all books, to suggest ones you’ll enjoy (or in fact, that will meet your need - reading isn’t just about ‘enjoying’ after all).

It can suggest them to buy, or as audiobooks, or it can find ones currently available to borrow from your local library!

It is at https://leafle.nanosheep.net if you’d like to give it a go :)

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I have had several attempts at using ChatGPT to recommend me books and its failed in all but 1 attempt. And in that attempt, it just located a book from an author I like, but by a pen name I wasn't aware of.

It usually congratulates itself on the recommendation but I filled my DNR list pretty quickly this way.

What does your bot do differently if anything?

A few things - it checks the books it suggests actually exist is maybe the most important (I was really bummed to discover some Claude suggested for me did not). My main reason for building it was to hep me find stuff from the library, so there’s that as well. It also tries to do a little better than more of author X, by using the llm’s ‘understanding’ of the books and what actually mattered to you about them to build up a little profile of your taste and find maybe slightly unusual things that would work for you.

Oh, and it definitely does not pat itself on the back for suggesting books for you.

(You can see the profile it makes and correct it - it did a pretty good job on me)

ChatGPT always has a good sounding justification for the books it suggests, the issue is that I really didnt like the result.

I think theres a lot of work to be done in the recommendation engine space sadly.

Oh for sure. I think there’s a lot of potential in llms for this (lot more sophisticated approaches possible than what I have here). Ultimately it should be like one of those fantasy setting librarians or book sellers who looks you up and down and then just hands you the right book for the moment.

Edited to add - or just a really good real life one, it would be awesome if everyone had access to a librarian or bookseller with like an hour to sit and talk with you about books and then help you find some.

I find that theres usually a frontloaded benefit to most recommendation engines. I remember signing up for Netflix and the first 4 things it recommended were bang on. What it had trouble with was finding new interesting things for me on an ongoing basis once those low hanging fruit had been accessed. Spotify was the same. Once I had explored the initial new artists it showed me, further recommendations were worthless.

I suppose potentially the upside with books is it takes a while to exhaust the shallow wins compared to music and movies because the investment of time is that much greater.

I signed up but there appears to be a waiting list. Is this real or just a way to figure out market fit?

You should be in now! Just trying to manage my limited credit that I’m funding the openrouter account with.

We have been working on a thing to solve this if it helps: people can oauth to their own agents for hobby projects to keep prices down.

https://tokenpony.dev

I have a project for people to OCR their Supernote notes using it all static hosted on github pages.

https://supernote.ifup.org

Thanks! I’ll have a look

I signed up and uploaded my reading list, but the chat bot says it doesn't have access to what I uploaded.

Oh how annoying! Sorry, that should be fixed now - that was a flow I didn’t account for originally (I figured people would chat first an upload once it gave them suggestions).

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