Greenland issues "strong warning" as American oil firm illegally drills wells
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Reading the article and the linked government statement, it sounds like the issue is that the company did receive permits to ship their equipment to one location in Greenland, and then moved that equipment to a second location without permission, while the overall drilling operation is still waiting for approval.
Still bad in the sense that they're presumably trying to push boundaries, but it's a far cry from actually carrying out "illegal drilling".
1. the US president has previously threatened a war of conquest in Greenland, a territory of a NATO nation
2. the executive chair of the firm that is doing the illegal not-yet-drilling -- and also a top stakeholder -- is friends with said US president and donated to his campaigns.
Posturing is to say that "they haven't yet broken any laws". Transferring equipment to a place for which the company had no permit is breaking the law. Once again, this is what happened and it's an act of breaking the law - both formally and substantively:
Quote from the OP:
That has prompted Greenland’s government to issue a “strong warning” that no approval had been granted to land the kit.
Or something.
How can one be guilty (“illegal”) of something if you’re not doing it (“not-yet”)?
Unrelated to the topic here, but does anyone else get pissed when news sites change articles, without any indication, without any differences and/or old version linked somewhere?
I've sometimes read the article, had a whole argument with someone, where they quoted something from the article that completely changed the meaning of the first version of the article and what I was arguing about. With more and more sites blocking archiving services (archive.org etc.), it's even harder to find the original texts, some existing for weeks or even months before being changed.... it gives me a total "Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia" vibe.
I take that as a strong indication that the news outlet is not to be trusted.
Maybe the article never changed, it always read how the other person interpreted it.
You read it through your filters and took something completely different than what it said.
I’ve seen this happen heaps. Even with articles where I’ve been able to prove it hasn’t been edited, and books too.
It's a well known thing for years.
No. Check internet archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20260808055323/https://www.thegu...
The HN poster got the title wrong.
It seems that they just lied to the investors about having any permit, even after Denmark government denying repeatedly that.
Jeff Landry is just going to get a federal pardon, may already have it written and in his pocket already
There's video of this massive container ship unloading all those containers already:
> A Greenland Energy representative has said a vessel carrying its 300 shipping containers of drilling equipment is to set sail from Canada on 12 September. Sinking the wells would begin in October
> Jeff Landry, the hard-right Louisiana governor serving as Trump’s Greenland envoy, has said Greenland could be pumping oil next year
adding: video segment from Rachel Maddow Show last night on this subject
The only challenge will be that the White House and complicit state governments are moving to disenfranchise as many people as possible before then, and likewise the White House will almost surely claim election fraud if Congress flips, and try to invalidate or even interfere with vote-counting.
Oh yes they are! They vote to approve his cabinet picks, they campaign harder against left and progressive primary challengers than against the other party, they engage in the same insider trading as the other party, they take money from many of the same PACs and lobbying groups (Israel, AI, military-industrial complex), and...
> If you want to win in the general election, you want as many "normal" Democratic candidates as possible.
...and they continue to stick to the old strategy of "be centrist and try to flip upper-class urban moderate conservatives". This has been a proven consistent failure for 10 years now. Of course one can't expect every progressive and DSA leftist to win in November. But it's also not the 90s anymore. People still want to drain the swamp, as it were, and they don't see any hope in the establishment. They thought Trump was their anti-establishment man, but now, finally, after 10 years, they see what he really is, and there's an opportunity to really give the people what they want. And the best you can offer is more proven-failed centrism? Hell no. Schumer and Pelosi and Wasserman-Schultz and all the rest are complicit in the existential threat we face today. Primary them all out and send them to the dung heap of history.
The western world has already started to adapt, building a world order without the US in the center. Trump is quite helpful here, basically driving the process. Biggest question is, who gets the best pieces, Europe, China, Russia, India? Trump's burning through political capital that was built over decades, but it's a zero sum game so he essentially sells it for cheap prices.
The US want to concentrate on themselves? Sure why not, great Britain as well was a super power not to long ago. Nothing lasts forever and we most likely see the beginning of the end of an US dominated world here.
The tagline of the Trump administration is "who's going to stop me?"
Worse: from day one, he enacted a playbook designed to sabotage the country within and abroad. This administration is a wet dream for every US adversary.
Since you demand links and names and blah blah, how about a point by point rebuttal of all the connections in the article linked above?
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out
Denmark and/or Greenland needs to seize those containers, keep them under armed guard, and then give Greenland Energy a reasonable deadline to come and retrieve them or else they'll be destroyed.
Trump's been smelling oil these past months or bribe money...?
Greenland issues ‘strong warning’ as Trump-linked oil firm prepares to drill
that massive 300 container delivery due in September and then drilling in October has already been completely unloaded NOW, months ahead
there's no "prepare" it's already in progress
Greenland Energy has retained Phil McGraw, better known as Dr Phil, a prominent rightwing former chatshow host who served on Trump’s religious freedom commission, to make a documentary series that will “capture the mission of these modern-day wildcatters”.
EDIT: To clarify, Greenland Energy is a Texas based company.
Why would you not just send the local police to shut it down, impound the ship and expel the people running it? Surely thats trespass, vandalism of public property, theft, illegal importation of goods etc.
No, you didn't get it straight. When you re-read it you will see they have not started drilling, but are preparing to start once they get permission (their application is currently under processing).
In your mind "starting to do something" is equivalent to "getting ready to do something"?
That's weird.
For one, getting ready means you have NOT started to do the thing.
Why confuse the two?
When I'm starting to go to bed, I usually take the dogs out one last time, go turn the lights off, etc.
When I'm starting a new team, that might mean selling execs on the idea that I need headcount, finding space for them to sit, etc. all of which are also getting ready.
> For one, getting ready means you have NOT started to do the thing.
Started and starting are very very different.
But would you say “I’ve started hiring”?
"I've started hiring" is very different from "I'm starting hiring".
Is also a real risk of a faux flag operation to force the US army to enter the area "in defense of the US citizens that were just doing their drilling job and were unfairly attacked".
See: Rachel Maddow: Is this how we invade Greenland?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGpC91qs8yA
This is a direct stab to NATO in the heart. And EU market is being closed for USA at full speed.
there's no local police to swoop in and arrest foreigners
that's actually how Landry is getting with it under Trump's support
Denmark must send in their military and destroy all the equipment like they were preparing to destroy runways when Trump was going to invade (this is still a stealth invasion)
what is a stealth invasion?