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The whole think of the children angle is so cursed. Used to push surveillance meanwhile actual harm against children goes ignored. See Epstein files and the grooming gangs in the UK

If it actually did anything to protect the children it wouldn’t be so objectionable

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> Used to push surveillance meanwhile actual harm against children goes ignored.

Worse, these laws will actually create new harms to children who will be forced to give their identity to websites and identity services that will exploit them and fail to protect that data.

What do you think about California AB1043?

Epstein is real, the “grooming gangs” are not, unless you’re talking about Jimmy Saville.

This is flagrantly untrue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...

so the grandparent commentor has broken UK law by knowingly sharing false information. over here officer, a thoughtcrime has taken place!

First sentence: "From the late 1980s until 2013..."

I think OP is referring to stuff like the Rupert Lowe’s Rape Gang Inquiry

What about it?

TBF they are real, but are they isolated to one ethnic group? No. Are the victims as numerous as Rupert Lowe's report makes it out to be? No.

I haven't seen any claim that it was isolated to one ethnic group. I have only seen the claim that it was disproportionately immigrants of Pakistani background.

The common talking points online are that it's solely from one ethnic group. Not sure if you have read Rupert Lowe's report, but it was explicitly framed around a particular ethnoreligious pattern of offending - especially men of Pakistani Muslim background, and it repeatedly connected that pattern to immigration and multiculturalism.

And that report has further driven the narrative online that it is solely an immigrant problem.

Epstein and grooming gangs are both real. Not that the whole "grooming gangs" problem hasn't been vastly amplified and turned into a repeated media talking point by a bunch of the extreme right wing in the UK, however. There's plenty of domestic non south asian pedos and molestors there too.

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