- TikTok/Instagram like engaging videos?
- Twitter/Reddit like discussion panel
- Your own public diary journal
- or, Latest events happening across the world from your feed?
Building one here - https://qocial.com and would love your feedback.
- I choose my network
- I never see anything (literally) that isn’t a post from someone in my network - full stop
- post are chronological
that’s it. I have been off all social media platforms since 2017 but would “return” if true social network existed. there isn’t one anymore, the best description of what we have currently are ad networks, there is nothing social about today’s social networks to the point that it really makes no sense that we still refer to them as social
- a closed social network, where you see what you follow.
- posts are usually chronological unless some posts are muted/promoted.
That's a very common thing; many social networks already have:
On Facebook/Twitter, you see what you add/follow.
I want to suggest federated social media like Mastodon, which is pretty close but it still has boosts and quote tweets, although you can turn them off in your settings.
- Mastodon is cool, but I'm not sure what its future is.
Individual instances are another issue, however. People like to point out instances disappearing because of "drama" but far more likely is that smaller instances shut down because they can't afford to keep running.
If you make it one where loss of trust leads to immediate loss of revenue and forces you to take the user side on all matters, well then all features are there to improve and maintain trust.
But open source thrives, is free, and we are not the product.
In theory redirecting ads money towards users, could be a path, in practice it seems the economic value is not there.
- Acquiring users for the hefty discount has led the platform to think they can recover from future sales.
- Assuming their buyers will consider them their long-term household shop.
- While new business with a new discount bumps in and the fight begins. We all know fights are ugly.
- But I think a platform like Twitter is already taking great initiative in that under Elon Musk.
There should be arbitrary and orthogonal ranking dimensions, that can be created by users at will. You should be able to have your own algorithms to decide what you want to see.
For instance, a post could be funny 0, in US English 1.0, political 0.5, physics 0.0, etc.
Every rating tied back to the person or bot that did the rating.
And of course you can rate the ratings or raters.
Confusing, but soooo powerful
The modern day equivalent is probably discord, there are servers with really close communities where everyone knows each other
- Tons of forums coming from PHPBB, vBulletin, mybb etc.,
If we enjoy HN, we should enjoy more about BBS. The only problem is that people don’t know about it.
However, I think we should come back to IRC it gave us so beautiful moments.
Bring your own filter/ranking algorith?
I wonder if there's not a fundamental conflict. Social media is essentially _addictive_ media. The most pro-flourishing move you can make is to disengage from social media.
- _ addictive_media: maybe some option you can turn on and off when it is addictive and when it is not, something like that?
One thing that keeps HN pleasant is dang's enforcement of good conduct.
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A crowded network of a mix of educated, spammy keyboard warriors is different.
On HN, we mostly have educated people, so with good conduct rules, they all behave well.
On social networks, you see many keyboard warriors and spammy people, where educated people get overshadowed.
All posts are analyzed with AI when posted and each post gets tagged with its language, topics, tone, format, length, location, and other characteristics. Then, readers can then filter the feed themselves (if they wish) to see only specific languages, only posts from people they follow, posts related to specific topics, etc. The idea is that distribution comes from relevance rather than popularity.
It’s still an early experiment. Most of the content currently on the platform is actually AI slop test content that I created to test multilingual feeds, filtering, moderation, embeds, search and indexing.
no social engineering
freedom to say whatever you want however you want
- No social engineering; curious what this means here - you mean no social influencing on any topic?
- For freedom, the world always comes down to the jurisdiction and law of your country. If you violate the law, the platform needs to cut .
And by Social Engineering, what I meant was no base algorithm implemention for suggestions, just if you follow a topic you'll be able to see all it's post on selection of posts based on what's liked better by others or those who follow you or those who whom you follow. Or a feed spiraled into making you spend time on platform, it should be like Newspaper/Event + Community Responses(excluding bots).
/future - says hi.
What does the other thing include in privacy?
And any new settings should ALWAYS default to what the average user would likely choose, not what the marketing department cooked up this week and "absolutely must be enabled by default!!!11~"
Your eyes don't unlock your phone; they also unlock what you are seeing on your phone.
Your speech doesn't just enable verbal communication; it also sends a message to your phone about what you are discussing.
Many of these can only be avoided by avoiding social networks where such tech is used.
You've probably already heard someone complaining about talking about shoes on WhatsApp and then seeing those ads on Facebook and Instagram.
The feed was added in the second half, and that's what took off.
- feed from people I actually follow, in an actual chronological timeline (not optimized for engagement, not deprioritized because it has an external link)
- topical feeds with topical filters (e.g. I don't care about politics but care about tech news)