ICE will release body cam video only when seen in the agency's 'best interests'
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It's still rare, but so are most horrible things that can happen to a person. "There's a pretty low risk of you getting into a car accident, so why wear a seatbelt?" because the risk, while low-ish in absolute terms, is still unacceptable - so you do what you can to mitigate it.
And if you’re waiting for the mid-terms, you’re already acquiescing to their plans.
Also, it says something — to me, at least — that I have to think seriously before posting this. All I’m calling for is timely criminal prosecution of what I think and believe are crimes. I.e. for a lawful process. Yet doing so puts me at risk of an overbearing, unaccountable response?
This is some serious sh-t.
The basis is "come and take it." A court order doesn't work on the brownshirts.
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/list/?page=1&per_page=100&agenc...
ICE doesn't exactly have a track record of following any laws or courts in general. So I wouldn't expect them to answer any FOIA obligation.
This is the fundamental flaw uncovered in the US system by the current administration. Turns out that if one agency decides to go rogue and declare that no laws apply to them, there is no mechanism in place to prevent that.
Things they have said are a threat to national security that must be prevented:
* Bodycam releases, broadly * Windmills * Not having a $400 grifted ballroom they had no approval for
They'll probably say the same about the golf course Trump is trying to install, as he takes over jogging/biking/picnic spaces from DC's Haynes Point this fall.
It's all made up. It's just an excuse to betray democracy, a cloak of darkness. Their own National Insecurity.
There is certainly an assault on government record keeping.
Also there is an assault on non-partisan governmental employees. This administration is politicizing government at all levels — bureaucrats are losing their legal cover in the fight for compliance.
Emily Bazelon of the Slate Political Gabfest talks about the federal government in legal cases is losing their _presumption of regularity_. Which is to say courts had previously dealt with justice department under the assumption they would follow laws and court orders. Not so much these days.
Funny side note. I had a BS moving violation ticket. I called to request camera footage from the police vehicle. I was told how to request it and received in the mail a polite refusal stating it was being used in an ongoing investigation. Ha! Mine. (I did have a court date, no video, but I did win my case).
https://americanoversight.org/investigation/presidential-rec...
In most cases, what wins is the interests of people in power, for all domestic policing
How would ICE being incredibly selective about what to release so it only paints the agency in a positive light be in the public's interest? How can the public make reasonable decisions on what's happening if we're actively hiding the truth?
If ICE is abusing people and murdering innocent people in the street, how is the "public interest" divided? Isn't the public interest to hold those who abuse their authority to commit crimes accountable? How would that go against the public interest?
Like any agency, their primary objective should be to follow the constitution and all the laws.
- ICE is moving to start using cameras (currently not using them) so this move overall increases the amount of footage that exists and can be released.
- Their stayed approach is analogous to other law enforcement approaches already in use.
So the headline should be "ICE to start using body cameras". I suspect this is in general good news for ICE - most police departments that once felt "forced" to use body cameras have found that the cameras have been good for their image. Incidents that could have previously been trumpeted as an unjustified police action now have the context of what the suspect was doing just prior that justify the action. I think ICE is betting on the same and the "look what our agents have to deal with" footage may get public airplay into their favor.
We'll see
One example is here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49076441
There is, of course, simply no good faith rationale for demanding the HN guidelines must somehow be applied to forbid someone quoting a spokesman of the US government verbatim. Honestly quite abhorrent and dishonest to try and pressure people to not even quote what the US government says if it makes the US gov look ridiculous.
The rest of the account is trivial, nonsensical quibbling about wholly honest headlines or otherwise generic affirmations.
A supposed desire for "neutrality" betrayed by a thinly veiled demand for moderators to censor and punish people for merely quoting the article itself if it doesn't make their favored politicians look great, despite it being the admin's own words. Further betrayed by repeatedly suggesting moderators change headlines to be more "neutral" (but in almost every case actually suggesting a borderline dishonest, whitewashed version to make the terrible actions be as mundane and as normal as possible)
(that's why i wrote my opinion on a message board, instead of a letter addressed to the director of ice)
Lots of data to feed into their Palantir systems to keep track of l̵a̵w̵f̵u̵l̵ ̵p̵r̵o̵t̵e̵s̵t̵o̵r̵s̵ terrorists.
i didnt think of that, actually, and facial recognition training and such actually sounds like a pretty plausible reason.
Texas had a turn out of around ~24% this year that shattered previous turnout; usually hover around 16%.
ICE is damn close to an organisation of brownshirts. If they fuck with the elections in November, that's an organised effort to use violence to overthrow our Constitutional order. That would be treason.
We're not at the point of treason. But we have leaders credibly threatening to commit it. (I'd say Stephen Miller has commited treason. As in try-him-and-hang-him treason.
It’s always 2A time. Nutters committing crimes just go on the docket.
Weird that it wasn't when Trump supporters were kidnapping people and making bomb threats prior to the election or when they stormed the Capitol to try to kill Pence and force the result.
Or even when ICE was being sent out into the streets and kidnapping people and shooting them dead in the street to begin with, and being sent out with National Guard troops to indimidate blue state voters.
Or when DOGE ransacked the government and exfiltrated Americans' data to Palantir, which will make interfering with the elections much easier.
Or when Trump refused to release the Epstein files. Which has nothing to do with election fraud but I feel like the sitting President being a serial rapist and pedophile defying the DOJ to protect himself and a network of pedophiles within the government should be a bigger deal than it is.
If they mess with elections again (because they already tried mind you) then Americans will do something. OK. Good to know.
Will you then travel 200 miles to fight law enforcement?
People won't.
At the time of general election there will also be militia (still not in your town), they will be identified after the fact, dragged to court and pardoned by whatever puppet is in power then.
Afterwards, voter turnout will drop significantly and then magically go up again, with quite implausible results.
You will still go voting in your town without any trouble.
Just saying, you could FOIA so much video in about 2 months...