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I despise django-orm, doctrine is so much better. Like, who thought that using named arguments to do stuff was a proper way ??? `.filter(created_at__gte=XXXXX)` why? The rest of the framework is great but the ORM is definetly its weakest point.

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I find those double underscore kwargs weird too, and would prefer to simply pass a lambda instead. What is your idea, what would you suggest?

The double underscore kwargs are a bit odd, I agree, but once you know about them they're okay.

And, rather like the petrol engine, it turns out while it sucks, everything else is massively worse in some vitally important way.

In Doctrine the query builder can take objects that describe what you want to do [1], not the best but still way better to read and understand. There's also the DQL which is an SQL-like language that's pretty well integrated in phpstorm and is quite close to SQL [2]

[1] https://www.doctrine-project.org/projects/doctrine-collectio... (for collections but you can use them for queries too)

[2] https://www.doctrine-project.org/projects/doctrine-orm/en/3.... / https://www.doctrine-project.org/projects/doctrine-orm/en/3....

Having used Doctrine, hard disagree. Never again.

I've used django-orm at my previous job for 2 years and I never have liked it, the syntax is just not nice to read. I used Doctrine for 5 years (2 before last job and 3 since I got my current one) and it's just night and day. Declaring entity is just way cleaner, you can just skim through an EntityRepository / query and understand easily what it does

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