The Iraq war lasted nearly a decade. Afghanistan 2 decades. And the US accomplished nothing. They made things worse, I don't need to go into details because that is an easy lookup.
That's ultimately the purpose of this war. Israel wants us to fight Iran because "Iran was close to making a nuke", which is an excuse they have been using for nearly 30 years.
Have you seen how much money AIPAC has in US politicians' pockets? Nearly every other office in congress has an Israel flag on their door. Poured $36M (Million) into Haley Stevens. A complete nincompoop and incompetent person, but she would have further supported Israel's agenda.
The US is a destructive war machine beast that needs to be constantly fed. Unfortunately, we are going to see tons of US armed forces personnel and Iranians die in a needless, wasteful, illegal war.
..it almost as if you think they came there to make things better
Or general stupidity and incompetence. Trump and his cabinet of clowns thought they could score a big win (I suppose like Russia back in 2022). Now they are stuck in shit and have no clue how to get out.
If the military industrial complex was in control of the US gov. they would stop President Cheeto from antagonizing the rest of NATO and therefore reducing the competitiveness of US arms manufacturers.
You are of course right about Israel Netanyahu is playing cheeto like a fiddle..
Is this Military–industrial complex in the room with you right now?
As clear of a problem then as now.
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwigh...
Cold War is back on, by the way…
and that’s an additional war, not just the Russian conflict we’ve proxied ourselves into, and sent tons of gear into, avionic assistance into.
Seriously, I know you’re reading this because of the rapid downvote: you really don’t think the US is in the middle of war?
It’s not a complex geopolitical game, it’s saving face.
> https://liccardo.house.gov/media/in-the-news/house-dem-sam-l...
At the same time, we've purged our military leadership of anyone who said "no" to Trump's plans of antagonizing Iran. A conflict many military thinkers consider un-winnable.
> https://www.duckworth.senate.gov/news/in-the-news/why-trumps...
Iran, having spent decades preparing for this type of situation, has the clear advantage and is pressing it hard. Shy of boots on the ground (itself an incredibly bloody and possibly futile avenue) there doesn't seem to be anyway to overcome their hold on the Strait.
> https://studies.aljazeera.net/en/analyses/war-no-one-can-win...
There is no secret strategy. The country is led by inept people who believe might makes right, and take every opportunity to enrich themselves. People are bending over backwards to make meaning of this blatant corruption and it is one way we're enabling the destruction of America.
Also that implies he (or his cabinet) is capable of understanding basic cause and effect and thinking more than one step ahead and there is absolutely zero evidence that’s the case.
It's true that Trump is deranged and this war is driven partly by ego and partly by the Christian dominionist Department of War's slavish obedience to Israel and fetish for holy war.
But let's be real - gross negligence and incompetence aside war with Iran was always going to happen, somehow, under some pretext.
And they prepared for it for a long time. And that preparation has paid off for them. We seem to not have prepared for it in the same way.
And I suppose when you're the world's last superpower you start believing your own hype and assume you're invincible.
Yes thousands have died from the war. You say they can stomach that more than the US but for them it is a defensive war. The US could stomach such losses in a defensive war, but an offensive war against an enemy that has never once attacked US soil is a different matter
Yeah but at least the brighter ones there like Bolton would have preferred to start a war they knew they could win at least by defining some clear objectives.
The issue is not so much the war (from their perspective) but that US has no clue and at this point what it’s trying to do there.
Compared to Trump Bush was basically Napoleon in how we handled Iran and Afghanistan (at least they knew perfectly well what they wanted to achieve during the conventional part of the war and how to achieve those objectives. Fumbling the aftermath of a war he “wins” is not something Trump will have a chance to do since he’ll never get there)