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LLM psychosis claims another victim...

A reminder for anyone reading this: talk to people. Real humans[1]. They will remind you there's more to life than what ChatGPT can offer you. They might even remind you, for all their stupidity and flaws, what intelligence looks like as compared to a program that predicts tokens. Forums like these always get philosophical in high-minded discussions about intelligence, but there's a useful legal principle that grounds us in the real world: "I know it when I see it". A real conversation with a real person looks nothing like one with the so-called superintelligent machine gods, so it'll probaby do your mental health some good to remember what that's like.

[1] Nobody in Sillicon Valley or big tech counts as a real human. Talk to an actual normal person.

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I totally understand the sentiment, and I generally agree. Something so strange I'm noticing is how AI-pilled regular people are becoming. My sister-in-law is a totally non-technical person, but everything is chatgpt this, chatgpt that. My wife, my kids, various friends — they're all talking about generative AI with way too much regularity. On the bright side, they're disclosing when information comes from AI, but a year ago I would never hear about AI from them. I don't like it.

yeah. The GA post reads like a less addled version of Yegge, but the same genre.

Talking to LLMs or reading books is much more effective in updating my priors. Talking to people is mostly ego, signaling, misunderstandings and axiological differences.

Please take this as a sincere comment, rather than an attack: what you're describing is much more likely to be a problem you need to work on, than an issue with humanity as a whole.

I didn't mean to imply there's an issue with humanity, just that talking to people is less effective, though maybe more fun.

Effective?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49179916

I understand the point that the physical world is still our (human's) anchor, but the virtual world still "exists" anyway, as in: it impacts the physical world.

Whether some humans are "Real humans", anchored in the physical world, and some are "LLM psychosis victims" is, in itself, not problematic I think: they each deal with parts of reality that are divided, but still affect one another.

Of course, a society more grounded in the physical would feel less dystopian... But ultimately, I think that GA is an intellectual's approach to fighting *for* humans in this numerical world.

Did you even read Gwern's Guardian Angels post? It literally describes the concern pointed out here, that the large consumer models are not aligned with users' interests. If anything, I would argue that Gwern has maximal AI Lucidity, given everything going on.

> It literally describes the concern pointed out here, that the large consumer models are not aligned with users' interests

Did you respond to the wrong post? I said nothing even remotely in that realm, so it's strange to see "did you even read" in response to something you apparently didn't read.

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