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UAE, Qatar, Oman, Iraq, Jordan, Israel, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Egypt, if you don't want to have to hit the link.

I mean clearly there are so many expats in these countries, especially the wealthy ones

'The Iranian regime is unpredictable, as seen by its recent decisions to attack areas in the region without warning or provocations ...hmmm...remind me again: who started this without warning of provocation?

The United States of Israel

Where you were for the last 47 years? Turn on the news.

Hmm, what could have happened 47 years ago. Is that when the current islamist regime overthrew the dictator that the US & UK put into place by orchestrating a coup against the democratically elected government because they wanted to nationalize the oil industry? Seriously this 47 years ago BS needs to stop.

I meant the entire time not 47 years ago sharp. You won't see what you're ignoring no matter how close it gets to you.

Strange how this argument keeps getting made but the obvious implication is never put into question. After all, the revolution "succeeded". So, tell me, now that students and socialists and ... put mullahs in power, and "kept" this great oil wealth, surely they're wealthy now? Has the oil wealth benefited them, or just the mullahs?

Oh wait ...

Because, people don't seem very happy about the result of the "success" of the revolution. Not at all. They also seem desperately poor, even if relatively successful. Only the massacring mullahs they brought to power look rich at all.

In fact now most people seem to wish that the evil oil companies would have won the revolution. Because, of course, they would have employed and helped the population.

Take for example the iconic photo:

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K5Yp!,w_1456,c_limit...

Apparently the girl on the left was executed by the mullahs for protesting and the girl on the right was forced out of the country. Doesn't sound like this "overthrowing the dictator" was much of a success at all ...

Ohh, you mean when the CIA supported a coup d'état in Iran? No, sorry, that was 73 years ago. When the USA supported Iraq in attacking Iran including the use of chemical weapons in an 8 year long war? No, that was only 46 years ago. You mean when the Iranian people protested against their government and replaced the monarchy with a Islamic republic?

“Without warning or provocation” lol.

So much winning. So much peace. This president should get another FIFA Piss Prize.

Wondering when did political discourse become so prevalent in hacker news? I have now become accustomed to it being normal, but I remember the hacker news of 10 years was not like this.

Why has this become so normal? I miss the days where this was focused on technology and, well, hacking.

Can we stop engaging this political commentary please.

Maybe something external changed and not HN? Can’t quite put my finger on what has changed in the last decade…

You may not want to engage with politics, but politics will engage with you.

Your sort is always nagging and prodding at the public to engage with politics, failing to understand that it may motivate the public to vote against your causes. Let sleeping dogs lie.

The hacker community has always had a strong political element to it, what else is the GNU GPL but a statement of political intent? Anything which deals with the allocation of power and resources is political.

I remember the old hacker news though having more "we built xyz" posts and less any "War, news, flee from death" type of things and even AI dystopian-themed things (regardless of AI not being out then, we had more focus on building products).

edit: maybe politics isn't what I really want out of hacker news. I think what I mean is I want less non-building related posts.

The old hacker community leaned anti-authoritarian and libertarian, if anything. The modern, everything-is-political "hackers" would be horrified by them.

I'm not being funny, but anti-authoritarianism and libertarianism are literally political stances. To be anti-authoritarian you need to understand what authoritarianism is, appreciate why it is undesirable to a hacker specifically, and to have a system of reasoning which allows you to articulate these sentiments. This is doing politics in the oldest and truest sense.

Is politics allowed now when people feel shit's hitting home.

No. If anything the more real it gets, the harder people put the hammer down on it.

Makes them feel bad, see, and people don't come to HN to feel bad.

That's a likely motivation, but it's worth pointing out that it's against one of the HN community's other values: thinking things through properly, not just picking an option.

The hacker mindset values understanding how the moving parts fit together, and thinking about whether better strategies than the "received wisdom" exist. Politics is often a demand to pick a side, which is against that, but "we just don't do politically contraversial subjects here" is even more against that.

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