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You are using DeepSeek's services directly? Doesn't that end up sending at least snippets/chunks of code to a server where it is subject to Chinese government data access laws? Even if I was okay with that, my organization would never be. And even if they were, our partners/vendors/customers would not be. I think that's the sticking point for a lot of people.

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Yes all of it goes straight to China! All of it is also open source or source available, or will be in the future. The stuff that isn't is trivial enough.

For any work with protected intellectual property, I use other providers, for the contractual guarantees, but I think it would be silly to think that OpenAI or Anthropic are not training on literally all data they get. How could you ever tell if they did? They can just claim the data was mislabelled, or ignore the accusations. If you have serious IP, use only local models.

So go with some other provider who hosts the models like OpenRouter if are worried about this.

Some employers have a policy prohibiting any use of Chinese models, not even allowed to run them locally on air-gapped machines.

That's just paranoid, might as well argue that the models will sap an impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

I agree it's absurd. I was just commenting on the bit about organizations not allowing it.

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