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It's important he beats his charges to prevent setting an unfavorable precedent for digital privacy rights.
I'm glad Cape has competition and hope Phreeli succeeds, but the time when I'd happily contribute to anything he starts is long gone. The substantial credibility he genuinely earned has finally been fully spent, at least for me, but I do hope it becomes a viable option.
John CEO of Cape
Is there any hope of Verizon's network being added to your coverage? I spend a lot of time in pretty remote places and Cape's coverage is up there with its pricing in terms of being a major barrier to retention.
Stop doing this. Yes, I want tap-to-pay to work. I don't want to be told I don't want that; I want it to work without the proprietary attestation garbage.
Can I suggest putting your card between your phone and your phone case?
Beyond that, I've been quite happy with Garmin Pay. The watch itself doesn't have a mic or LTE radio, I leave it on airplane mode the vast majority of the time, and it works without the phone nearby. As privacy-hostile-device privacy policies go, Garmin has one of the less offensive ones. I run the Garmin apps in the Owner profile's private space.
I've never had it not work for payment in years of using it, and in fact, at one one payment kiosk I tried to use Apple Pay for a particular large purchase when it made sense to, the kiosk refused repeatedly, but then accepted Garmin Pay.
Their lowest-end devices still don't support it, but I think you can get into it for an MSRP of about $250, and they tend to discount at all of the predictable times. Also, eBay.
Re: FaceTime, there's a way to do it from Android if you're invited (I don't think you can initiate it), but I haven't messed with it in years. See if you can get a good privacy book for normies on the agenda and suggest moving to Signal during the discussion.
For any others wondering, here's the list of participating banks: https://www.garmin.com/en-US/garminpay/banks/
For real though just bring your actual card instead of trying to load it onto your phone. Why give Apple and Google your card's private key?
How is the camera on GrapheneOS compared to the stock Pixel 10? Do your banking apps work without playing cat-and-mouse games?
Got 3 banking apps (Europe) and they work without a hitch or complaint since installing over 3 years ago. I still use physical cards though so tap-to-pay is a no but I was never interested in that.
There are a few settings you have to adjust for the camera to be any good. I thought it was trash until this weekend when I found the settings. The default has quality at 95% and has "highest photo resolution" toggled off. The stock camera app doesn't seem to let you set the resolution specifically.
I use Varo and Sofi. Both apps work on my phone. The only app I have had a specific problem with was the MyQ app, but there is a workaround for that one.
It's probably worth doing, but I have about three and a half years of data / setup on my phone and I'd have to wipe that all out. I wouldn't permanently lose data, but I did spend a good amount of time setting up my home screen, etc. It's a big leap! :-)
Is your battery life better?
I also use a garmin and haven't bothered with banking apps (all banks have a website and I avoid closed source software when I can), but it looks like quite a few are supported: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...
As far as tap-to-pay goes, I still carry around a few credit cards with RFID chips, which I trust more than any mobile payment method.
No Airbus for me I guess.
That's the only thing that will make me change my phone from 2019 still on life support thanks to custom roms
GrapheneOS Defends Data-Wiping Function That Blocked US Border Search
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49085236
US Government targets Cop City protester over phone operating system
Also, PayPal's fee, as described, is fairly steep:
> PayPal charges a base fee of 30 cents and 2.9% of the donation amount within Canada. There's an additional 0.8% fee for donations from the US and 1% for other countries. Currency conversion adds an additional 4% fee as opposed to the usual PayPal conversion fee of 3%.
Monero has ~1 cent transaction fee ime so negligible compared to a comparable speed transfer with banks.
They also support Monero and Zcash because they are privacy respecting unlike banks.
Many use insecure 2FA methods like SMS which allows sim swaps. Their apps and websites often contain extensive fingerprinting and trackers. The also ask for permissions they don't need to function just to get more data about you.
They share and sell that info by default. In fact, it seems they are required to.
They use that info in non-privacy preserving ways like targeted ads based on your purchase history.
All transactions are stored for too long (many years). Transactions are analyzed by AI.
They file reports to the federal government when they see something suspicious. Like using cash or buying medical care that's "high risk". Extremely few of these reports are acted on. It's mass surveillance—surveillance of everyone without a crime having been committed.
This is your private info that the government should need a warrant to access, but by requiring the bank to do it, they created a loophole through the 4th Amendment.
Here's from someone who works at a bank (apparently):
>Investigations can also be initiated on flawed pretences. For example I once had an investigation started because a teller was being racially insensitive to an indigenous woman.
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneylaundering/comments/1lfa7hp/ho...
The Motorola razr has crease issues that they seem to want to ignore and Samsung has locked down their phones so root is impractical.
Details please?
It doesn't seem extremely common, but the reports are for phones that are relatively new - not even two years of use.
Build it yourself for other phones if you want to have a security-focused OS without most of the security.
Suit yourself =]
Partnering with Motorola seems to be the best bet.
Many services sell phones with GrapheneOS preloaded. Can be easily verified but no benefit for most people so it probably doesn't glow.
Proxysto.re seems to list good services as well and minimizes data. Accepting Monero is positive for their trust as well.
All you need to install graphene is a web browser and USB cable.
> By contrast, a vertically integrated FOSS(ish) hardware-software stack might eventually get to 5% market share, like desktop Linux
Those exists. They've never gained traction. If you think graphene is too much tinkering, you'll be traumatised by that landscape.
Outside a section of the Western middle class, ordinary people in 2026 only own one computer and it's in their pocket.
Anyone can sell phones with it preinstalled and you can verify it's a legit install.
They mentioned they would like to eventually have Motorolas sold with it as stock so that's hopeful.
Fairphone would need to design a new phone with hardware that meets the security requirements of GrapheneOS, which is what Motorola is doing in the announced partnership. There is the development cost, and then the new phone hardware would be more expensive than the Fairphone 6. For Fairphone, there is the question of whether the cost of developing this new phone will be recovered in sales of this more expensive phone.
Would Fairphone give GrapheneOS a big enough share of the profits to fund the port of GrapheneOS to this new hardware and pay for the share of the costs of the monthly software updates? Otherwise it wouldn't reduce GrapheneOS's need to fundraise via donations, which is the subject of this thread.
I don't know if Motorola is offering any cash to GrapheneOS, but they are a famous enough manufacturer that the partnership will raise the profile of GrapheneOS and help them be more successful. By contrast, I'm not sure how many people have heard of Fairphone but have not heard of GrapheneOS. The only reason I've heard of either project is through tech social media. Retail outlets in my area don't sell Fairphone and local mobile operators don't offer Fairphone hardware. But these guys do offer Motorola.
In summary, I'm not sure a Fairphone GrapheneOS partnership makes financial sense for either project, even if it sounds great from a tech nerd perspective.
I’m super excited about the Motorola partnership!
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-stand...
Fairphone is closely partnered with /e/ and Murena which have repeatedly claimed GrapheneOS mainly benefits criminals and pedophiles. They've also said that about hardened devices in general on several occasions. They've falsely claimed GrapheneOS is mainly used by GrapheneOS. That's part of years of misleading people about what GrapheneOS provides to promote their products. Fairphone stood by them on this.
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116353973732143171
It's very relevant the context leading someone to post this thread. /e/ and Murena directly got involved in attacking us during the attacks on GrapheneOS with misinformation in France by a national law enforcement agency. Many of the claims made to attack it closely resemble years of past attacks by /e/ and Murena falsely framing it as being for criminals and not suited for regular people.
I only discovered GrapheneOS last year when I decided to reduce dependence on big tech and started migrating use cases one by one. Looking forward to purchasing a Motorola phone to use with GrapheneOS once it launches.
I only know about differences between LineageOS and GrapheneOS and I think you guys have the better model for the average end user. It inspired the design for my self hosted cloud infrastructure.
Keep up the good work!
I'd actually love to have the Holo keyboard back. That was my favorite.
But also you can just install your own keyboard app. They will likely make a replacement version eventually, it's planned to replace the stock apps that are bad.