Hacker News Reader

Comment by dvduval | Hacker News Reader

The big part that I didn’t see was whether this was a Russian drone or Ukrainian drone

They're Shahed drones, used by Russia.

In September the Russians accused the Ukrainians of having repairing downed Geran drone airframes at the Lviv LORTA plant, transferring them to Yavoriv, and launching them unarmed into Poland. They presented various evidence like serial numbers, photographs of silver-tape repairs, claims that a Ukrainian SIM-card was used, lack of impact destruction, etc.

What's true though? I don't believe that I have a way to find out.

Russian credibility is at ~zero IMO. They've put forth so many insane theories related to this war that they started.

And just on first principles, how stupid would the Ukrainian have to be to do such a thing to their biggest ally? It almost beggars belief.

The Nord Stream destruction was made to Europe by their big friend Ukraine.

With EU blessing.

Yes?

They would love to have a cause to involve anything NATO.

And for the first principles you are surely didn't miss: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr7xzg3dmj8o

A safe option is to avoid trusting an aggressor, which has no business being in Ukraine and that can pack up their bags and leave at any time.

Usually you can find out. There are probably radar records showing them coming from Russia. But people aren't that interested and it's hard to keep up with the firehose of falsehood coming out of Russia constantly.

> I didn’t see was whether this was a Russian drone or Ukrainian drone

From the france24 article:

> A government investigation reportedly identified the first of the three drones as a Shahed model used by Russia in its war with Ukraine.

Shahed drones are used only by russia and iran

Reply on news.ycombinator.com