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Comment by kungito | Hacker News Reader

sounds to me like iphone isnt actually that safe otherwise it wouldnt make sense. maybe we are missing some critical information

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GrapheneOS seems to be consistently the hardest to exploit AFU based on various Cellubrite leaks. iPhones have better protection than all other Androids except Pixels.

I might be wrong, but I get the impression that the GrapheneOS folks generally recommend GrapheneOS > iOS > Pixel >> everything else.

It might have to do with e.g. Apple having rolled out MIE at a broader scale than Google rolling out MTE on PixelOS, where AFAIK it is still largely opt-in (not 100% sure, I always wipe a Pixel immediately).

Agree. I didn't mean to say stock pixels are better than iPhones.

IIRC it was the only one that Cellebrite couldn't break, but this was based on quite old news.

There are more recent leaks. The last release of GrapheneOS they've been able to exploit on locked device is still from 2022 as of a couple months ago. They take longer to break into iPhones than stock Pixels but that may largely be due to Google giving much earlier access for public testing. They have a far shorter window to prepare for a new iOS release before it's in production as a regular update for users.

> The last release of GrapheneOS they've been able to exploit on locked device is still from 2022 as of a couple months ago.

That's impressive!!

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