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Yeah I tried to have a conversation about security yesterday with Claude and it immediately stopped me - I was taken aback, I didn’t expect it at all.

This is highly problematic.

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Claude's "I'm going to draw the line here", "This is where I'm going to hold the ground" always rubs me the wrong way. Classifiers rejecting a request are one thing, but there's something very troubling about machine saying "I'm going to draw the line".

Lol that’s so hostile. It’s insane how much the language of these models create real unaddressed human reactions.

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

I found GPT 5.3 was the last model that was sufficiently competent and still open to discuss security on my own github repos. 5.4 started refusing to even look at potential problems, albeit not consistently. I'm considering a Kimi subscription, but I know many employers will simply not be on board with this and I don't know if I get enough personal use out of this for the few things I run on servers. When those companies realize what they're currently missing out on, it will be a game-changer.

keep in mind that Kimi trains on your data, so if you care about that, sandbox what it has access to.

They only train on the subscription memberships. Like everyone else. They also have a metered API that is not used for training (like most others too).

With Openai and Anthropic, you can opt-out of training. Kimi you can't.

Wdym? According to their FAQ, you can opt-out for Kimi memberships too.

Recently Claude helped me fix a security issue and while it was present Claude would talk.

But after I fixed it and tried to talk to Claude again Claude stonewalled me like it assumed I was trying to introduce a hole…

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