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My parents put in countless hours and tens of thousands of dollars into raising me to the point where I could write an answer on StackOverflow

And OpenAI scraped and distilled that answer and gave me nothing

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What does your story have to do with Moonshot AI? Do you think they didn't also use the same corpus? Bizarre

And now people such as myself have access to open weight models with that information. I wasn't lucky enough to have parents put me through school, and LLMs have absolutely helped me further educate myself and play "catch up" on opportunities others have been given. So, the net effect has been (and is continuing to be) a democratization of information.

Democratization of information, but Sam Altman gets a $100B net worth and I'm still broke :)

I would prefer some sort of democratiziation of the money made from the democratization of information as well

Agreed, i wish that it would have done more than change who gets rich off rent-seeking behavior surrounding the knowledge that others created, instead it just consolidated that from many gatekeepers to a few.

I can at least take some measure of pleasure in the fact that it has generally lessened the roadblocks in gathering information. I am still displeased that there are any gatekeepers of humanity's combined knowledge

It’s even worse than before

Businesses like these used to public at reasonable valuations. You could ride with them to trillion dollar valuations and grow your own fortune too. Everyone has a story of buying Apple or Google or Amazon stock and making millions

Now they’re going live at trillion dollar valuations and by the time you get in, all the upside has already gone (see Spacex IPO)

Not only did they steal all human data, they also made sure that the upside was only limited to themselves and their cronies

Not to be an arse, but didn't you have access to Stack Overflow with all questions/answers prior to LLMs?

Yes, but time is finite

You could have gained that stuff prior to LLMs. The leg up you're describing is free information on the internet, not AI. AI just makes it a little easier to find, while also crushing the original sources in the process. (Even if it had a broken culture, is stack overflow even going to exist in a year? Where are they going to train on going forward?)

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