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The meta keywords in the HTML is very interesting. 100+ references to NSFW topics such as hentai, nudes, etc.

That's hilarious. These keywords are applied globally, even on pages like https://qwen.ai/usagepolicy, where they very kindly ask you not to use their products for sexual content.

Run this in console to see all the tags:

  document.querySelector('meta[name="keywords"]').content

WTF lol

    who made qwen stefani's dress

    spiderman into the spider verse did qwen meet Peter

    qwen stacey porn

    do blake shelton and qwen stafani have children together

Some of it is a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Woman_(Gwen_Stacy)

(i.e. the porn references)

    ben 10 four arms porn qwen

These keywords are kinda wild.

Which LLM do you think they used to generate the keywords

I've been thinking about this too much because it's so ridiculous and funny that I had to at least try wrapping my head around it. My best guess is this:

If you look at past snapshots at archive.org, you notice that the meta keywords are growing like an append-only list, which means it's probably part of some messed up seo pipeline. The other clue is that it's stuffing the meta keywords which apparently only Yandex uses as a search signal[0].

The list has 3882 entries. A lot of them are clustered and look like auto-complete results. But a bunch of them look like hyper-specific, misspelled search results (e.g. "145 gwen rd cheshire ct"). Google's webmaster tools doesn't provide distinct queries like that, but yandex's does[1].

My best guess of what's happening is that Qwen is monitoring it's search queries in Yandex, dumping that list into a serp service that scrapes yandex's autocomplete suggestions, and then taking that list and dumping it into their meta keywords.

It explains the urls in the list (ppls using search engines like address bars), the seeming fixation around certain topics (which usually starts with a misspelling), and the random one-off queries.

0: https://yandex.com/support/webmaster/en/controlling-robot/me...

1: https://yandex.com/support/webmaster/en/service/popular-quer...

"Google's webmaster tools doesn't provide distinct queries like that"

Yes it does

Anyways your theory is wrong because they don't rank for things like "ChatGPT login". It's just a keyword list from auto complete data not their own ranking data

Why would they added URLs for porn websites to their keywords? Like literally the names of websites with ".com" and such at the end.

I assume they use a SEO tool that automatically adds these meta keywords to optimize for some search engines.

It apparently adds common search terms that contain words like "qwen". This evidently includes possibly mistyped searches for "gwen" or "ben" in a NSFW context.

Maybe someone knows more about how such SEO tools work, and where they pull the data from.

Sounds like “keyword shitter” (genuine tool)

Bonus points for also covering misspellings like "pregbant".

how is prangent formed

Am i gregnant?

https://youtu.be/EShUeudtaFg

Can you even get pregnato

qregnant

how is babby formed? how girl get pragnent?

mothers who kill thier babby. becuse these babbys cant frigth back?

That got dark.

Its an old something awful thing https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/how-is-babby-formed

Hah, today's 10k.

If a women has starch masks on her body does that mean she has been pargnet before.?

how do i stop my son from looking at pikachu porn

Stork bring baby

show bobs and vegana!

For those unfamiliar.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bobs-and-vegana

This reddit slop is unbecoming of HN.

Is there such a thing as Reddit "unslop"? Thought it went without saying.

That's racist!

(See kids, it is possible to fight memes/racism with memes! And well... yeah, this really is racist.)

What value does the 'keywords' meta tag even have these days? 77+ KB of crap added to the page weight. Web development is full of idiots.

Maybe it's completely intentional and it's making a comeback at least with LLMs? Google say it has no value, but LLMs probably genuinely use it.

I think the Qwen team is probably aware that the NSFW community is very quick to adopt any new image gen model (see: Civitai). So, it seems like a good SEO approach to try and surface their model in search results that said community is likely already checking.

That is hilarious as porn is illegal in China. But I guess pron SEO is allright, if it is against the west.

Western search engines simply ignore the meta keywords tag for over a decade now

So what is the point then?

There is no point. It's from people that have no clue which is most people that do search engine optimization

That said it's possible search engines in China or other countries might use it, but it's very easy to game so it doesn't really make sense

Wow you really weren't kidding. Fully automated AI slop tentacles for everyone!

https://pastes.io/uenL6X9K

It also seems to have an obsession with this celebrity, based on how many times ctrl-f for "stefani" turns up a result.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Stefani

> total drama qwen hentai

Do you want to know more?

[ ] Yes [x] no

Qwentai

> spider qwen thicc, spider qwen tied up, spider qwen toddler costume, spider qwen trans, spider qwen wallpaper, spider qwen xxx hentai

spiderman pointing at spiderman meme trans wallpaper xxx thicc hentai

probably due to misspellings as qwen stefani

> ben 10 hentai game where qwen gets drunk

erm... what?

> qwen ten hentai, qwen ten xxx, qwen tennason footjob, qwen tennison hentai, qwen tennyson, qwen tennyson ass expansion, qwen tennyson giantess pussy, qwen tennyson hentai, qwen tennyson porn, qwen tft, qwen the milk maid, qwen the milkmaid, qwen the parts over, qwen the wolf witcher, qwen tire, qwen tneyson porn, qwen to go feelies youtube, qwen tokenizer java,

Whelp today’s a unique day on hacker news, wow! Didn’t expect to read that at my desk lol

Surely it was meant to be "Gwen" (the protagonist's cousin and the other main character in the show). I guess it was somehow (incorrectly) assumed to be a misspelling of Qwen and included in the tags. Or perhaps many people were misspelling Gwen as "Qwen" and it was all hoovered up.

Keyword typosquatting I guess?

Wow, crazy things - "shemale porn", "spider fucks venom", and various porn URLs like tushy.com. What the hell did they do to their AI? Is that the training corpus or intended use case?

> Is that the training corpus or intended use case?

[whynotboth.gif]

Interesting too that they would include "ai friend" when China just added restrictions on AI "partners" such that many services stopped offering them rather than try to adhere to the restrictions.

Brainrot is the new opium war

how the turn tables

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