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If sloppy digital pollution is the state of things to come, I fear for our species.

People are allowed to reject things and we've seen the public around the world overwhelming reject LLMs, what SV + VC doesn't like are being told no (shocker). Honestly believe they would rather destroy the planet than be forced to help others, which tracks seeing what you hear coming out of the mouths of these supposed "leaders" (deeply anti-human + anti-democratic sentiment).

It's no wonder they are worried for their lives. The majority of the planet rightfully hate their guts.

Right now, most people are more than happy slurping in the slop. The push back is only in niche corners of the interwebs. Even the obvious issues with slop like "count the fingers" level of issues are being used for entertainment and embraced rather than rejection. So there's no real pressure to fix things with the slop generators. So many people are oblivious to the content they are consuming is slop or not bothered by it if they are told it is slop. So I'm really not buying your premise that "we've seen the public around the world overwhelming reject LLMs"

Who in slurping the slop here? Do you talk to people? I've been doing deep canvassing for the last 2 years. One common element seen across country are American's complete utter hatred of these companies.

Majority of artists hate it. Celebrities routinely comment how much they hate it. It's become a punchline to describe anything that sucks.

I'm sorry but force feeding something that is deeply unpopular ain't working. If it was, companies like OpenAI + Anthropic wouldn't be trying to so hard to expand their fill of corporate welfare.

You're in a bubble, like most of tech.

Man, did you miss the mark with that shot. I defiantly do not use AI. So much so that my job may be in jeopardy for refusing to use it. I hate these companies with every fiber of my being. I've been through multiple industry changing "new things" that was going to be the end of my career, and not one has worked. If AI is the one that ends my career in tech, then so be it.

If they hate these companies why is usage of llms increasing so much?

Artists are the wrong people to ask. Ask non-artists and non friends of artists how they feel about being able to generate images on command.

> and we've seen the public around the world overwhelming reject LLMs

Have we?

Where do you see people rejecting them?

Sure, the immediate response is have you been paying attention at all to the data center buildouts and the responses by US civilians? If you can't even acknowledge how Americans are already turning to active resistance of these buildouts + the attempts to assassinate leaders of these technology companies, you are quite behind the plot my friend.

Refusing data centers is a truly bipartisan issue where you even have say republican activists in Texas [1] vowing to vote for Talerico because of his anti-AI stances. It's definitely the easiest layup if you're running for office this cycle.

There's a book that recently came out that discusses these stories in detail:

https://www.upress.umn.edu/9781517917739/techno-negative/

You can only harass, poison, and kill a population for so long before they break then fight back. It's only going to get worse too as communities are making life even harder for people already on the knife's edge.

This is all easily preventable too but we see how tech leaders respond to being told no or forced to pay taxes to provide welfare services to communities.

[1] https://therealnews.com/data-centers-are-not-a-red-state-or-...

And yet a huge proportion of people are using LLMs daily.

That people don't want data centers in their back yard does not translate to opposition to LLMs. Anyone who hopes it is will be setting themselves up for disappointment when people keep using them.

How do data centers poison and kill people?

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