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They make many many many more things than just powertools. They have ebike motors, home appliances, industrial machinery, chips (they have a very good division for MEMS as far as I can tell, they make high quality IMU's, they are super popular for airbag usage), protocols (the CAN bus is BOSCH IP and you pay 1 cent royalty I think for each MCU's with CAN on them), automotive components.

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I'm waiting for a Bosch dishwasher to be delivered today. Supposedly it's one of the best.

Our kitchen remodel included a Bosch dishwasher - it’s silent and always clean. Glad we made the splurge! Enjoy!

I hope you have a good experience with it. I had a Bosch dishwasher in my old house for some time until a failure, and it was so absurdly quiet that the little light it projects on the floor when running was truly valuable. It cleaned well and was all around pretty great until it gave up the ghost. Unfortunately when I went shopping last year for new appliances I found out that Bosch now requires you to use their app and connect your dishwasher to WiFi to do very basic things like use Eco Mode. One assertion I will stand by to my grave is that a dishwasher has no fucking business being connected to the Internet.

I opted instead for GE Cafe / Profile appliance everywhere, which are fully usable without the app. None of my appliances have ever or will ever be connected to any network. The GE Cafe dishwasher also has a built in grinder/disposal unit which helps it deal with heavily soiled dishes much better as well as a bonus, and a fully stainless tub.

Best of luck with your new dishwasher, the Bosch units are legitimately very quiet and powerful for cleaning (I believe they're still the quietest by at least 2db on the market, and every 3db is a doubling of sound power and intensity since its a logarithmic scale).

>every 3db is a doubling of sound power and intensity since its a logarithmic scale

This is true, but the ear measures sound pressure, not sound intensity. Sound pressure requires a 6dB increase to double. See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power,_root-power,_and_field_q...

And human perception of loudness is also non-linear. The increase necessary for a perceived doubling in loudness is frequency dependent, but at most frequencies it's higher than 6dB. At 1 KHz you need roughly 10dB increase for a perceived doubling. See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sone

I thought the same too and I think it's horrible. It can neither be too loaded or too empty, the door doesn't stay cracked open after it dries so I have to prop it slightly open and the placement on tines on the drawers are poor and often too small. It'll probably last forever so I'll have no reason to replace it. In my last home my cheap Kitchenaid was great, I suppose I could swap them. I suppose the floor light is nice.

> the door doesn't stay cracked open

Whoever installed your device didn't properly adjust tension springs that keep the door open. You can do it by yourself with user's manual (that can be downloaded.)

On the flip side, I've been using them for years with no issues. I jam pack them full of filthy dishes and they come out perfectly clean every time. I use high quality detergent, rinse aid, keep the filter clean, and regularly run dishwasher cleaner through it. I wouldn't have any other brand.

The local consumer-affairs magazine that every country has (e.g. Which? in the UK) publishes yearly rankings of large appliances, washing machines, fridges, that sort of thing. The category washing machines and dishwashers are predictable, every single year all of the top-rated appliances are always Miele and Bosch (I think a Samsung may have crept in one year). They really need to introduce a new ranking just for these product lines, "top-ranked devices other than Miele or Bosch".

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