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> You're allowed to exit the AI business.

Isn’t it more fun to fight the incumbents, the behemoths, the goliaths?

Elon is the richest (and by extension most powerful) person in the world. How is he the scrappy underdog in any context?

>Elon is the richest (and by extension most powerful) person in the world

*publicity known, and overwhelming majority of his wealth is not liquid but tied to companies. Arguably the most powerful publicly known person is the US president.

xAI is no David.

Relative to OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google in the AI space? Absolutely.

Nah. They're all rotten to the core, just in different ways.

The key difference between xAI and Anthropic/OAI/Google is that xAI has the least-likely path to existing as viable business in a decade.

That said, the economics of the entire AI industry are kinda made up at this point, so who really knows; it's quite possible that the players with the best odds of surviving the crash are those that can draw funding from their parent company's other businesses.

>The key difference between xAI and Anthropic/OAI/Google is that xAI has the least-likely path to existing as viable business in a decade.

I don't know, renting out a fleet of GPUs at annualized rate of ~100% of the capex deployed to obtain said GPUs seems reasonably better than lighting hundreds of billions of dollars on fire in order to earn tens of billions of dollars.

The GPUs that depreciate like gangbusters. Yeah, solid long term plan.

3090s are still selling at damn near their release MSRP.

They're not filling datacenters with 3090s. With the amount of headache and the amount of infrastructure needed to support those beasts, do they even have a resale price at all? Or just scrap value?

you know you can just log onto eBay and see what the price of a used H100 is. nobody is stopping you

Wasn't thinking of H100s either. I spoke of infrastructure support, and I was being literal. A herd of GB200s needs a building built to stringent specifications to house them.

Yes. Their resale price is in the same range as the cost of a new car. I'd buy one if I could, but they're too expensive for me.

David was a good vs evil with an order of magnitude fewer resources on the good side. XAi is evil vs evil with comparable resources on each side. Now this is where I know you’re MAGA because as I’ve said a million times you guys don’t do fair comparisons.

xAI, by all accounts, is not a real playing the frontier AI model market. By a long shot by many accounts.

Did we forget how XAI meant to be uncensored model (because censorship is a lie and lying models cannot be good)

But it is not uncensored it is just differently censored

A $2,500,000,000,000.00 startup. An underdog really.

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