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It almost was. S&P decided against it at the last minute, despite saying they would initially.

They never said they would afaik. They were considering it and went through a consultation process and the outcome was a no.

The S&P committee never said they would. Space X asked and the committee said no. They should not have asked.

It went through the formal process to adopt. Almost certainly public discussion online had an influence.

They don’t meet the inclusion criteria. The committee went through the motions to be diplomatic, not because there was ever a chance of it happening.

#1 rule of sales. If someone is trying to sell you something, you _probably_ don't want it. Eg, they need the sale more than you do.

The very fact that they were asking the question is such a huge red flag.

Them needing it more than you doesn't mean you don't need it too.

Bought an air mattress recently. Way better than a sleeping bag on the ground, even though I can also manage that.

Did you buy it from a door-to-door salesman, or did you seek it out?

The most insistent the salesman, the highest odds you got a bad deal.

But we are thread is about corruption (probably with bribes, and stealing the money of people that didn't participate on the transaction), while everybody keeps pretending is a consensual sale.

See, a positive outcome from investing in inflated stock.

I've started telling basically that to the solar salesmen who come by every few days: if it was so great, you wouldn't have to pretend to be from PG&E or tell a bunch of half-truths about how utilities work.

problem with solar is that in itself it is great, but here in US if you look at the cost per watt produced it is heavily inflated with permitting and marketing costs. which is basically their margins till it becomes barely profitable to you. otherwise most of solar system cost has been fallen quite a bit for last decade plus.

dont believe me, look up how much a open loop DIY system costs.

Oh yeah solar is getting good but the guys who come to your door and say they'll give you a $0 electric bill just sign here are peddling something that's maximally profitable for them

No, but they did hold research sessions and they did draft the policy and the rules and all the updates and have them go through legal... they were planning to, until they saw public sentiment, or other influence. It'd be misleading to claim it was never a consideration.

Considering yes but unclear how much of that is doing valid DD or a real push internally to want inclusion.

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