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I reject your presumptive framing that affirmative action is a “punishment”. If you help someone, you are punishing the entire world?

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> Where else in our society do we justify imposing a moral wrong on a specific individual

> If you help someone, you are punishing the entire world?

You are missing (or maybe even ignoring) the huge difference between these two viewpoints.

I’d be very happy to discuss the nuances and relative merits. I agree that it’s time to have race blind admissions and stop preferential treatment. I’m arguing against the hyperbolic notion that affirmative action is inherently immoral. @rayiner is trying to cut off the idea that it had any upsides and was ever reasonable. I’m still trying to convey that racism != any and all types of discrimination.

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