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The "and" is very important here. Places like Seattle now mandate servers get a real wage. It inexplicably hasn't changed tip culture at all, so now they get regular wages and still complain when someone doesn't tip 20%+ for a takeout order.

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The mandate stipulates that they can get minimum wage, I wouldn’t call that a “regular” wage, and certainly not a livable one.

Seattle and its surrounding cities have among the highest minimum wages in the entire world (~$22/hour). You're maybe not renting a studio apartment by yourself but it is far from destitution.

A full-time job should allow at least for a moderate place of living alone, otherwise it's not a minimum wage.

You can get a pretty decent 1 bedroom apartment in the U district of Seattle on $22/hour, such as [1].

[1] https://collegeplaceapartments.managebuilding.com/Resident/p...

I mean it's still rough if you want to live close to downtown, but it's also $21.30/hr and going to go up in 2027.

I hate tip culture too, but I don’t blame the employees for it. I never tip for takeout, counter service, retail, etc, and I’ve never actually had anyone complain or so much as make a face.

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