Punk, or why I don't stream anymore
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"George Francis Hotz (born October 2, 1989), known online by geohot, is an American security hacker, entrepreneur,[1] and software engineer. He is known for developing iOS jailbreaks,[2][3] reverse engineering the PlayStation 3, and for the subsequent lawsuit brought against him by Sony. From September 2015 until November 2025, he worked on his vehicle automation machine learning company comma.ai.[4] Since November 2022, Hotz has been working on tinygrad, a deep learning framework."
From the early legal controversy to today, if there's one thing we can expect from geohot, it's that he's gonna think he's god's gift to programming and everyone whose work he disagrees with are losers. But the bluster often doesn't result in much eg his plan to 'fix twitter search' didn't amount to anything (and today in June 2026 twitter search is way less reliable than it was pre-Elon/Hotz/etc in Oct 2022-- but I guess we can't say it's Hotz's fault cause like I said he did approximately nothing)
Punk is actually a good metaphor because the the angst in the music became the blockbuster 'brand' of the music. Being jaded and cynical doesn't make you inherently more interesting it just leaves you--'here', wherever this post is. The programmer equivalent of sporting a studded leather jacket and green mohawk
The hack allowed users to continue using them as such, though to what extent that persisted I don't actually know.
Example [here](https://phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomput...).
In the PS3 era, the PS3 had the highest compute power (FLOPS) to cost ratio of any commercially-available computer, due to a combination of its parallel architecture and the fact that Sony's business model was to sell the console at a loss and make up the money by taking shares of game revenue (and by charging $6 a month to allow the console to connect to the Internet)
But it turned out that it was possible to jailbreak the PS3 to run software other than certified PS3 games (this was officially allowed at first, but Sony quickly pulled the plug). And as a result, the best bang for your buck for "highly parallel we just need FLOPS" supercomputer workloads was to build a rack of PlayStation 3s.
But that only worked as long as the hack worked.
I recall exploits allowing some level of access to the RSX and other components Sony had locked away from OtherOS as far back as 2007, and Sony had already removed OtherOS from the PS3 Slim with no warning or explanation in August of 2009.
Geohot didn't even start on the PS3 until December of 2009. At that point Sony had already made it clear that they no longer saw value in OtherOS and wanted to get rid of it. Geohot's exploit (which was janky, required external hardware, and didn't even enable homebrew much less piracy) gave them a convenient excuse but there's no reason to believe they wouldn't have jumped on any other excuse.
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I do love how Sony immediately learned the hard way that there are a lot of very skilled people out there who are more than happy to play in a sandbox and not make a mess in the rest of the yard as long as it gives them enough room to do something interesting, but if you take the sandbox away they're going to play everywhere else.
Computers even at their crudest have a hypnotic ability to bring you into their world, and somehow make you forget about the reality you live in. This is not the only mechanism of society that does this, but certainly one of the most powerful we found in recent history.
Yeah, that's only true if you don't hang out in the old-style Internet. I spend most of my time on blogs, reading and replying to discussions on wide-ranging topics, talking to interesting people who know a lot more than I do about many subjects (in fact, most subjects that aren't computer programming) The discussion isn't on Disqus, it's not monetized, it's just... people talking to each other. And it's an active, fun community.
They're out there. Just... choose to disengage with the boring communities. I haven't had a Facebook account in years; I only got one because at the time there was a social group I belonged to that was using Facebook as their primary communication tool, and when I moved to another city I deleted my Facebook account. I never signed up for Twitter. Didn't want an account when it started, didn't want one five years ago, don't want one now.
It's possible to disengage from the artificial, and find real communication with real people. The first step is to just... stop logging onto Facebook. Just walk away.
Forums were easy to search. The threads were mostly chronological and easy to stay in touch with.
These corporate platforms are designed to promote reposting. Always “new” content and impossible to find anything else. keep the user reloading that feed at all costs. And behind the scenes the corporations are mining your activity
I’m somewhat optimistic that as future generations of LLMs keep scanning this new LLM driven social media landscape, the models will collapse and the content will just suck more and more.
And people with interesting takes and novel ways of expressing them leave the corporate platforms, and we return to the humble days of user owned platforms without all the bots
After all, it’s easier than ever to build a platform now that we have LLMs to do all the chore work
If you miss a community, go be a part of one, that'll help everyone! I'm a part of a maker community and it's fantastic, the only thing that's missing is more makers talking about the weird stuff they're building!
And in the last 5 years, running an online forum has become more of a pain given how badly behaved some bots are. Just recently, I installed Anubis on some online forums I run, and I've been amazed by how much traffic dropped. Before, server load was becoming a problem to the point where all the forums I ran were taken offline by their hosts! I have been thinking about how there's a need for a forum software which produces static HTML for the content, while all dynamic components are behind a login. Bots won't increase server load much in this case. If the forum administrator decides to end the forum, they can easily keep hosting the content without any future maintenance beyond paying the bills. Two of the forums I run are just archives at this point, and I'd love to be able to flip a switch and make them static HTML... (I probably will adapt some script I found on GitHub do to this in the future, maybe with help from LLMs.)
in some cases, build your own.
Idk. I believe you and I think you're right, but I don't even really know where to start even so
Heck, do we even know anyone that truly hangs out there? The people around me are talking to each other on WhatsApp and Discord. Otherwise they’re playing mobile games, which is its own issue.
I got into role-playing, the VTES card game, some board games, and had a kid. Turns out most people wanna hang out offline, and otherwise use chat apps to talk about their hobbies. Then there’s all the great bloggers that write about parenting and the newsletters that cover positive news the media doesn’t spin.
The internet is fine. Now if we could get the crawlers and bots to behave a bit…
I do wonder if the author is very young. As much as I enjoyed his small essay, a few things stuck right out at me:
>I tried having a flip phone once (2014), but you couldn’t find out what time the movies were playing because moviephone just redirected you to their app.
This has been a solved problem for a long time: you look up the movie times and such prior to departing for the movies. No smartphone needed.
>And it’s not like there’s anywhere to go. The real world is strip malls and axe throwing and escape rooms. Oh god people actually go on a hinge date to axe throwing and think it’s the real world.
You can escape, but you'll never hear about it by either checking online, or by listening to very-online people. Go on a hike. It doesn't even have to be a good one. Just go do it. Maybe say hi to some people you meet while you're there. You probably won't develop a deep friendship with them, but you will have a real, face-to-face human interaction.
Living away from the internet can now only be done intentionally. It can be done, though, but it's not the automatic choice. It's not even difficult ... it's just "manual." You must always think about what you want to do and how you want to do it. It's a skill that will come back to you. Or, if the author never learned it, a skill he still has a chance to learn.
What we've lost is getting to feel like you're connected to a common culture. This is a big, big loss, but it is not everything. The tools you need to escape are all around you. Power off your devices. Get some books at your local library. Try leaving your devices off all weekend, even when you get anxious, and bored, and your brain cries out for the easy, automatic stimulation it's become so accustomed to. Lay in bed and stare at the ceiling until your brain creates interesting thoughts out of your boredom. It's possible.
• Surface parking in my city is all by QR code. Where there are machines, they are broken because no one cares.
• Social groups are on iMessage or RCS. RCS is not nearly as backwards compatible with MMS as it seems and you WILL get dropped silently, eventually.
• Some restaurants literally don’t have print menus (they’re expensive! QR codes are cheap!).
• Rideshare, bike rentals, etc. are all dependent on apps. Taxis are not reliable or available.
The list of tiny cuts goes on and on. When you have a smartphone you don’t realize the affordances that made it possible to be without them are disappearing.
I’m sure you can do it in a smaller place but you have to be dedicated and willing to suffer in a city.
It's weird that people are sleepwalking into this single point-of-failure dystopia instead of regulating it out existence and only realize it when their phone gets damaged or lost or is glitching in some deal-breaking way.
Here's a tip, if you want people to help you out don't start with, "I don't have an smartphone..."
Instead, say a variation of "Hey, my camera's broken/the app keeps crashing on my phone. Can you help me out?" People tend to be a lot more sympathetic.
I've never had issues with the restaurant QR thing.
me:"Hey, my camera doesn't work can you help me out?"
waiter: "Sure you can take a look on my phone/use this tablet."
Like, I have to fix my phone's camera before I can park in your city? are you kidding me?
If opening a new account, pretend not to have a phone.
Have you considered using a GNU/Linux phone (Librem 5 or Pinephone)? There is no dependence on a megacorp and QR codes work fine. Some services might redirect you to a web app if you show them such phone.
I've previously tried living out of a PinePhone Pro, and if those web apps require much JS at all they're going to be in for a bad time. By benchmarks and your previous accounts, it sounds like the Librem 5 is only going to be worse from there.
But you nod towards a useful point there at the end. I've found I don't need to present ancient hardware to get some entities to provide web apps or other means, I just say something handwavy about my phone being locked down by my employer's IT policy, neglecting to mention that I'm my employer. Bigger orgs aren't worth bothering with, though. You could show an airline an employee a flip phone and they aren't going to have any flexibility on the matter.
Thank you for your advice, but if you've been following the recent trends, more and more committed Windows users are switching to Linux. Especially among the technical audience that comments on HN. Examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47548437, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47614197, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47995030. Concerning the iMessage, there is nothing one can do here: It's a well-designed walled garden. You either embrace it or leave.
Yes, JS-heavy websites are a nightmare for most non-recent hardware. Nobody promised you that you won't have to make any compromises to fight for your freedom though.
> my phone being locked down by my employer's IT policy
This is basically lying, whereas I truly own a legitimate smartphone which they do not support - and they have to respond somehow.
I send and receive iMessages perfectly fine on my non-iOS devices. It's doable, much more so than running ancient hardware is, but there are reasons I don't bring it up with people who haven't asked.
The PinePhone Pro wasn't a compromise, it was unusable. Maybe that's improved since then, but it was a horrendous experience.
I set the IT policy for my devices. I sleep fine saying I can't install crapware on it. It's my primary business device and that comes with sensible restrictions.
My argument was that the trend is new, while your link is to a 2.5-year-old comment.
> The PinePhone Pro wasn't a compromise, it was unusable.
The Pro version had a very small developer community and thus quite undeveloped software. It was discontinued for this reason.
My path was iOS -> LightPhone 3 -> GrapheneOS -> iOS.
The LightPhone was the right level of capability for the distraction free goal I had but it wasn't capable enough to resolve all of the things I mentioned.
The phone with GrapheneOS was an attempt at compromise. The idea was something I had enough control over that I could (in code) limit my usage on. In reality it didn't limit my usage and had issues with things like banking apps and RCS, so I was basically using a more irritating iPhone again. I went back to iOS.
Of course it was designed for the elderly and disabled, but I loved it. There may still be third parties offering this type of service.
This is like that for me; he sounds kind of annoying, but as they say, points were made.
Strangely, not everyone is at home when they decide to go to the movies.
But I hear you. What if I wanted to know what movies were playing, but I was already at a restaurant? What could I possibly do? The only answer is a smart phone. There's no choice, and no escape.
They're animal desires, being human means having the discipline to control them.
Do you actually have a solution here or what?
Call the theater? Do you have their phone number memorized? Phone Books and Pay Phones basically don't exist anymore, remember.
Do you just drive to the theater after the meal and check in person? Who is going to agree to that anymore? People will just say "nah maybe next time" and go home
Like it or not, society has changed. Social expectations have changed.
I discovered a lot of new things by being forced to make choices from limited set of options.
Theater usher was quite possibly the best job I’ve ever had
Now these announcements were supposed to be brief and structured, but when they permitted me to make them, I couldn't resist cracking up and laughing for some reason, in the middle of recitation, and so never mastered the art of making the announcements for the store. Pretty sad.
But I do recall those days, when movie theaters had all their showtimes on tape. I know that the movie theater is a place that we would never expect to reach a human on the phone. Because that announcement would play, for as long as it needed at a multiplex, and then repeat or cut off. And you were supposed to figure out the showtimes by picking through the linear verbal announcement and choosing your favorite film. I can only imagine the teenage staff who are mostly paid in concessions, how they would get to recording that stuff!
I didn't say "you don't have a smartphone" I said "you don't have a cell phone"
Yeah, it's common knowledge now that you can't put many identifying details into a dating profile - there are creeps out there doing things like harvesting them and feeding them into ChatGPT.
This feeling has existed across generations and most of us have to go through it eventually.
The world, however, is not any less real than it has always been and is not collapsing.
The author really needs a change of scenery. 'Strip malls and axe throwing' sounds like a minor update to the 'strip malls and TGIFs' of the `90's.
Might also be that but his takes have also been…unique
That’s also why I think the blog is liked. Sometimes the takes a bad. Sometimes they are novel and good
OP is living in a world of hyperreality of his own making. dude has always been doing software and never been able to break out of that.
it's not like he's been bartending though college and then slide into CS/dev work and is struggling with how startups are it's own weird universe. it's all hes ever known and is now convinced that the hinge dates and axe throwing are the weird, not-real thing.
homie has been in his weird autism-tech-bubble and never had a reason to get out of it
Jesse: I was thinking about that thing you said about the universe. Going where the universe takes you? Right on. It's a cool philosophy.
Jane: I was being metaphorical, it's a terrible philosophy. I've gone where the universe takes me my whole life. It's better to make those decisions for yourself.
El Camino, 2019If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
But: what exactly is the problem if AI was going to exceed us humans in intelligence? We keep pets around and enjoy watching them move about, despite them being clearly less intelligent than ourselves. We enjoy arts, sometimes conceived by literally clinically low-IQ or insane people. Proof of above-average exceptional intelligence != source of dignity nor justification for your existence as an sentient being.
I guess the idea that AI going past meat human is scary, because there is an implication that it could lead to general deprecation and deliberate extinction of meat humans with no concrete proof of their own continuities or the guaranteed ultimate free choice as the carrier of the human civilization for us to make. But IMO, that kind of an moment-of-truth situation is not guaranteed, and there are plenty chances that it leads to situations similar to Data from Star Trek, or Doraemon by Fujiko Fujio, or Yukikaze by Chohei Kambayashi, or Rocky from Hail Mary for that matter - bunch of friendly next-door 400-IQ sentient autonomous superhuman aliens that just happen to be non-traditionally-biological.
So why be depressed?
geohot is living in a world where he is reacting to their discussions, instead of harvesting them. of course he burns out.
the game streamers just go LOL and the onlyfans types go "oh honey" and blow it off -- and watch their wallet fill with $$$
but george is making this interactive and isn't harvesting $$$, he feels a need to engage. knowledge workers see all criticism as a challenge, part of the "engineer's disease thing" and can't disconnect, and doesn't have the satisfaction of walking out with 300k a year from the stream.
Hinge dates and axe throwing are not my world. I also didn't go to pop band concerts and meat market bars in the olden times. I don't judge the people who did, at least now I don't.
>I’ve been scraping dating sites and feeding them to ChatGPT, and it’s amazing how few of the profiles still say anything about the person. There are no rough edges, it’s basically marketing copy. Reflected back and forth in their heads with this “society” mirror so many times that there’s no identity or coherence left, just a mush of diffuse monochrome light.
OK, that makes a bunch more sense to me. Thanks for sharing that interpretation.
My experience with dating apps was mostly awful, but then I met my wife on one. Now we’re happily married with 3 kids.
Axe throwing is just a business fad like so many before it. This started long before the internet.
Pinball arcades, video game arcades, tanning salons, self storage, frozen yogurt. The list goes on and on.
Not sure what my point is, I guess it’s mostly this has nothing to do with the internet or with now. If the author were writing this in the 80s he’d be complaining about people hanging out in malls.
If it were written in the 50s he’d be complaining about drive-in movies and restaurants, and tract houses. Go back earlier and he’d probably be complaining about electrification.
To be fair I think we should be more intentional about our adoption of technology, but nostalgia is a hell of a drug that is best avoided.
This goes for dances, food trends, activities, apps, etc.
Some of these cycles are generational, some of them last only weeks or months. It’s just how we are.
These days there’s the added factor that the world has been culturally “flattened” and it’s hard to escape sameness with distance. It’s tough times for the easily bored, you really have to branch out into unusual niches to find anything of interest.
Personally I've never done axe throwing but I think it probably doesn't matter at all what activity is being done on a first date, as long as it helps break the ice. Also... it is the real world. Those people are probably subjectively speaking much closer to experiencing the real world than George Hotz, it's just not a world he necessarily wants to accept.
whats the difference w/r/t programming? in this case I'd argue the knowledge was the skill
It is very possible to be good at slinging code and bad at everything that is required to support deployed code.
Based on geohotz history, I wouldn’t be surprised if he falls in that bucket - hacking and algorithm skills are great but don’t lend themselves at all to building twitter. That’s why it is foolish to pretend like one guy is great or even good at everything.
The basic feature set he wanted to implement wouldn't have been very difficult for someone who is experienced with react, but I'm imagining there's lots of minor quirks with the "last mile" of details related to internationalization / localization and accessibility.
Separate thought: This new information world can be fought, but it's the war against capital and power, and that cannot be won, only resisted until the side with the capital and power becomes so incompetent and detached from reality that it collapses by itself (this is happening now, slowly; it happened already in the Soviet Union), and then we can shape what comes afterwards. But there probably won't be as much computer technology post-collapse.
If there are Bad Times ahead, it will be good to have this as a tested option. If not, you get a cozy private space to talk with people you know, outside of the surveillance grid.
A cool idea would be to build out an ISP to a small set of hub locations using leased lines or illegally placed fiber something, but that will get expensive.
I heard someone have an idea to use a drone to lay illegal fiber across city rooftops.
If you have line of sight, or can borrow a tower that does, you could always use point-to-point wireless or laser links to build a high bandwidth backbone. This would let you play LAN games if that makes it more interesting.
I concede that most people aren’t going to be interested in this. It is what it is.
This is clever-clogs George Hotz of hacking, comma.ai and tinygrad etc fame.
He used (?) to live stream hacker stuff like long running coding sessions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz
Unofficial video archive:
That’s so rich from someone known for his public stunts against Sony & co
lots of folks be working on exploits and jailbreaks who, as a rule, STFU 100% OpSec 100% of the time
"the real, scary hitmen aren't the ones bragging about it"
Say what you like about geohot's public behavior and his long string of half-finished projects, but he's always been very DIY and I respect that about him.
What does that say about me? I used to find him childish.
Jokes aside I also didn’t like him. Until I heard him on that podcast with the Russian-American dude whose name I can’t remember and can’t be bothered to search right now. I was surprised to start find that I would like George, because he said he was religious and I generally dislike people who capitalize god, etc.
I think he was one of the coolest hackers of the millennial generation.
This is most egregious in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example. Would Carlsen have won game six against Nepo if Nepo had had a tablebase? No, it was a draw many times.
Hacker culture has slowly been subverted since the mediocre developers of open source projects sold out to corporations and became managers of the A developers. Literally like pg wrote: C students manage the A students. Except that in open source this was a novelty and the A students were too timid or conflict averse to fork.
Maybe in the area of your expertise, but ChatGPT probably knows most of the Habsburg dynasty. (just as one example) The breadth of knowledge, even when the depth is quirky and limited, is genuinely a big deal.
If the human needs a literature references and a database to answer a question, can they be said to "know" the answer?
ChatGPT doesn't have an endgame database for chess. Despite having "read" all the literature about chess, it will hallucinate the board state if you try to play chess with it directly. But it "knows" how to write a chess engine that would beat me… and more than that, one which would beat a competent player.
It is a very weird and spiky form of intelligence, but it's also definitely not just a database.
If a CPU needs RAM and disk access to give answers, does it "know" the material?
It would be very impressive to watch this, but irrelevant:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22table+base%22&t=osx&ia=images&i...
> If a CPU needs RAM and disk access to give answers, does it "know" the material?
If you need to have a prefrontal cortex (RAM) and hippocampus (disk access), same question. (The answer is "yes, obviously that's fine, why would you even ask").
You / Carlsen / anyone will not beat a top chess engine even without the endgame databases. In the vast majority of cases you / anyone won't even reach that part (7piece / 8piece for some positions).
> ChatGPT does not know more than you
Yes, yes it does. Your fallacy is that you confuse knowledge with "knowing what to do when you don't have that knowledge". But in pure raw knowledge (definitions, trivia, bits of history, etc) chatbots are oom over any human being. Just try any of the "benchmarks" gamified by people.
A very fast librarian with a select material of reference books and adept at speed reading could give the same answers as LLMs. A bit slower of course. Most of the time an encyclopedia would suffice and be more accurate than the hallucinating ghosts in the machine.
EDIT: The insane downvoters can go back to their AI girlfriends. The comment was meant for thinking people.
This is called the "Chinese Room" argument, postulating that a human equipped with a Borgesian library of reference books in a language he doesn't understand and a symbolic lookup table for that language can emulate a thinking human mind without actually thinking.
It was controversial for decades, and is now known not to hold up at all. (Or to hold up perfectly, if unlike Searle your goal is to show that human minds are nothing all that special.) To the extent that the room's occupant succeeds at a task that requires thinking, he is thinking... end of story. Simulated intelligence is now known, thanks to LLMs, to be indistinguishable from real intelligence.
Ask the operator of a Chinese room, who doesn't know Chinese or math, for a novel proof of an unsolved conjecture. The LLM can give you one, but your hypothetical reference librarian won't even know what to look up at first. By the time they learn, the core premise of the argument will no longer hold true.
Oooff, that's quite the claim. Why don't you try to back it up? Cite some research.
Last time I checked it was still very possible to distinguish "reasoning" LLMs from Real People.
The "last time you checked" was evidently 2023 or so. I suggest checking again.
Uh huh. So you have no evidence, and can't prove shit. That's what I figured.
LLMs are nothing but a shallow mirror of human thought, they don't hold up to any serious examination and the only people who think they do are typically narcissists who can't form deep connections with real people. The superficiality of LLMs is not apparent to these fans, because they have never managed to connect with the depth and inner world of another human.
Then, the next thing that goes through their mind -- the last thing -- is a chrome hood ornament shaped like a greyhound.
That’s your domain buddy, not mine.
You'd have to be deluded or deranged to believe that. Even if it does nothing else, it "knows" more than any human alive.
While the connectedness of our world allows for great ideas to be spread and shared, there’s a huge reduction in actual variety. I don’t know what the solution is.
Interstellar diaspora. Interplanetary diaspora isn't far enough apart.
What George is talking about here is much more related to the ideas of Nick Land, technocapital, Marshall McLuhan, and man's relationship to industrialization.
> Isolation is basically impossible because the Internet follows you everywhere. And it’s perfectly uniform, there is no other Internet, just a place with five corporate towns and some Chinese ones that are really hard to visit if you don’t speak Chinese.
This is McLuhan's "global village".
> I don’t think I’m properly capturing the scope of the machine. First you build the fence to keep the animals out then you build the fence to keep the animals in. It’s a Fullmetal Alchemist homunculus maybe it has already eaten your soul.
This is Nick Land.
I don’t know how to explain it quite yet but I feel like Geo is experiencing something I’ve seen with a lot of my counterparts who were computer nerds from their childhood into adult life. It’s like they haven’t considered much outside of that realm and can’t figure out how to.
Don’t get me wrong, I find my field fascinating and work on it all the time. But it’s still just a field and I can’t apply myself just as well to anything else.
The loneliness could take him to dark places. I’ve been there. I hope he finds someone.
Why...
and homeboy is a rich tech bro, he doesn't have to play the numbers game
I assumed watching streams is similar to watching vs participating in sports. I played a few as a teen, got quite good at one. As much as I like watching highly talented people apply their skill it does nothing to scratch the participatory itch.
Think it depends a lot on the type of stream. The vibes are all over the place. Say gaming stream, live walking stream vs a talking stream vs a podcast stream.
Size of the stream also matters. If you're regularly in the comments of a 50 person stream commentators recognise each other and there is interaction not entirely unlike old school forums that have regulars. In a 1000+ stream nope.
So I don't think there is such a thing as a typical experience.
The main one I follow is a talking stream of someone I've been following for years. So has a bit of old friend vibe in that you know a lot about this person & it's a comforting presence. But of course its all parasocial and one direction only (mostly) so old friend parallel is kinda fake.
> The new war demands your inner reality. The new war will be weird in all sorts of new ways we can’t even imagine yet.
I've been orienting myself towards this already being true as well, and think we still haven't even started to see this taken to its (logical) extreme. If nothing else, it'll at least be interesting to see all the effects and methods around this, and all the cool mind reading toys.
While the ersatz realms of AI regress to the mean, religious traditions chug on, bringing joy to adherents.
Find your community of faith.
end of history doesn't mean nothing will ever happen again
I think I'd rather read slop than edgelord.
I think you only give up the steering on the how, but the "what" and the "why", which were always the more important parts, in my opinion, are still in your hands.
There has always been tension on that specific point, and it's what made being a programmer in a company you don't own so painful.
This one hits hard. I feel more and more that AI-assisted creation is really just consumption. And it’s worse because it gives a false sense of creativity. Are we really expressing ourselves and challenging ourselves by pressing a button and generating the same slop as a million other people?
You (collective you, not you personally) are just consuming a product. The LLM is a product. The model is a product.
You're reheating spam from the can in the microwave and acting like you're Gordon Ramsey. But you don't know how to cook, all you know how to do is push buttons. And worst of all, you probably think anyone who bothers to learn how to prepare food with their hands is a rube.
I don’t mean that in a mean or reductive way. But something about this kind of assumption that things will get more elaborate and more abstract forever (when he’s talking about the future war for your inner reality) as if there are infinite resources, just strikes me as disconnected from physical reality in a way that feels particularly weird
When I was laid off a couple months ago, the first thing I did was go out and mow my lawn. One hour of simple, clean labor, with clear progress, goals, and solitude. It helped me stay out of a bad mental frame, and when I finished I went inside and sent out a few hundred applications
Over the next several weeks, I spent a lot of time that wasn't spent on finding a new job working on my yard. Fixing sprinklers, cleaning up the edges of the grass, turning, peating, and mulching garden beds, and more
While this job search period took longer than any of my past ones, and ostensibly should have been more stressful, it wasn't. Is that because I spent most of the downtime working outdoors? Probably, who knows? It was certainly a better use of my time than sitting indoors moping
I used to laugh at the king of the hill joke "Why would anyone do drugs when you could mow the lawn" but now I understand it completely
The people that create slop garbage profiles or cookie-cutter profiles didn't have very quirky profiles before. The probably didn't even participate before.
The quirky stuff is still there and maybe there is even more of it but it takes effort to find it instead of being able to go online and everything being novel.
I sympathize with the author. I started with HyperCard in the late 1980s when fax machines were an up-and-coming business. Then learned C, C++ and assembly language before I knew what a spreadsheet was. I got educated on a very strange mix of simplicity and complexity that is diametrically opposed to this "modern" world we live in, where web and app development have become so complex that an individual developer effectively can't compete in the market without using AI, while the business logic our software performs is often smaller than what non-programmers used to cobble together for their office workflows without a manual.
I keep asking myself what went wrong. How has so little progress happened in the way we write software since the Dot Bomb in 2000? How did languages like Rust rise in prominence, while others like AppleScript devolve into something unrecognizable?
The answer is gross, but it's misaligned incentives. Why would Meta make React better, when its very complexity forms a moat that prevents outside competition? Why would Google rewrite Android's spaghetti code, when the last thing it wants is competing smartphones? Why would Apple improve its web browser to run at 1000x current speed and negate the need for archaic native apps written in Swift/Objective-C and lose its gatekeeper status?
This vacuum of innovation, this cultural wealth inequality, has become so ingrained into our lives that we can't even see it anymore. It's a just a state of being now, a perpetual scarcity mindset. It limits not just what we imagine, but what we can imagine. Not for formal reasons, but logistical ones. Financial survival trumps mental/physical/spiritual health.
Influencers, streaming, the gig economy, even AI paper over this rot at the core of our reality. Instead of fixing underemployment, undertaxed capital gains, money in politics, trade deficits stemming from colonization, a national debt obfuscating public to private wealth transfer, etc etc etc, we tell our young people that they'd be happier alone. That if they just gave up their blue hair and avocado toast and stopped being lazy, they could someday reach the 20th century American Dream.
It's all baloney. On the one hand, I'm jealous of young people today - scraping dating sites to actually meet girls would have been the golden ticket when I was young in the late 1900s. But on the other hand, I feel a strange mix of concern and pity for them - technology is a pale imitation of the party plane that my generation spent eons escaping reality to.
If I didn't know better, I'd say this year is 1996 (2.0). Now that the Internet Age has ended, AI gives all of us unprecedented access to not just free information - but free motivation. For the first time in human history, we have digital slaves to fill the artificial scarcity component of capitalism. We're so close to being free for the first time, just like we were before the powers that be pulled the plug at the end of the 90s by denying access to capital to the masses.
The squares, the sellouts, they don't even know they're a joke, at least not consciously. The rich and powerful talk at us so hard, shamelessly, losing the intellectual debate by refusing to participate in it.
The most punk thing we can do is share. Time, money and resources - not content. Pay it forward. Bring someone up with us. Help.
Otherwise the wrong people will win the AI lottery too.
Uh, movies are definitely not more "real" than YouTube videos and they're just as passive.
some kernels of truth but it feels like he doesn't need AI or tattoos, he needs a therapist
Or if he's lucky enough not to need to worry about money for a while, then spend half a year doing Peace Corps or some sort of voluntourism project. Walk the Camino de Santiago or the Appalachian Trail. Spend a week in the second-largest city of every country in Africa, in reverse alphabetical order. Whatever.
His current situation isn't making him happy. So try something very different for a while, get some perspective, then reassess.
No need to be so dramatic, might just be a bit of an early midlife crisis thing.
I liked the post, some interesting takes.
I’ve long described dating apps as “distilling an entire person into a few curated photos and a snippet of text”. In all dating app profile advice I’ve ever seen, creativity, personality, and anything against the grain is highly discouraged. No wonder they barely work.
it's that okcupid data about how the highly tattoo'd people tended to get the most negative responses, but also very strong responses from other seriously tat'd people
fly a flag, signal theory, etc.
In today's Elo-score face swiping apps, your profile just tanks because all those people you didn't appeal to left-swiped you, and the one person who would have liked your tattoos never sees you. The only strategy for these apps is to 1) be attractive 2) don't be unattractive.
It already has a name in academia I think, post-truth, or post-reality or whatever, I think it all started with the French post-modernism thing, then critical theory, etc.
But I'm not sure it's a post- 'advance' at all, but more like a rejection of the enlightenment and a return to the tribal village.
But it seems like we're just going back to a previous time.