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He's leading the community. Not having basic professional does indeed kill them vibe for some of us. When is he going to pile on somebody else he disagrees with?

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The open source community is built up by many project leaders with unprofessional attitudes. Honestly I think a younger version of myself would have resonated with the post. I'm almost certain there are many folks who will see the post as a net positive for addressing the bun rewrite. Zig is full of people who think they are strong enough engineers to avoid needing tools to solve issues for them and the post largely says that bun was written by weak engineers and they were to blame for its problems which will resonate with the community.

Zig's community is - bar none - the least toxic programming community I've experienced. People on this website (who have never witnessed a single Zig community interaction) love to read blogposts from afar and come to conclusions this way and that, but if they ever stopped to actually engage with the people involved they'd find out the truth quite easily.

I have engaged with the Zig community. You're saying that people should not come to conclusions based on what they just read.=, from the founder nonetheless.

Did Linus Torvalds convince you, with his history of outbursts, that Linux is done?

He's turned that down over time and has said as much.

I figure taking the most successful project of the 90s and using that as a polestar for of newer projects who re trying to get and keep traction over other projects (see this thread and topic) is probably a bad idea.

It in fact is a great thing to learn from, not repeat the same errors.

So you're saying your only singular experience with the Zig community is this one blogpost, and you've written 14 comments so far on here about it? What are you even gaining here?

I've been using Zig for years. Is this not a discussion forum?

My apologies, your previous comment read to me as "I have engaged, I just read this blog post". I now see what you intended.

I've realised from the comments under this post that many people seem to desire some sort of performative "professional" communication style from people above all else. I don't know why people care about this so much and I don't think I care to know.

I know you said you don't care to know. But for others wondering: being professional is important because it reduces conflict. Having a leader of the language personally insult someone like this makes the community feel that it is okay to insult others in the community too.

Personally I find it hard to believe that a community isn't toxic when their leader acts in this way.

> People on this website (who have never witnessed a single Zig community interaction)

I'll take claims that you have no ability to make for $100, Alex.

I wrote Zig off years ago after watching Andrew troll and make bad faith arguments. This rant only confirms that was the right call.

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